shoplifting asda

kentguy07

jenniewb wrote: »

Just confuses me: how can they get away with it? isn't it obvious what they are doing? I can't see how the action of sliding a major box of meat into clothing or even a bag cannot get seen by even another shopper, let alone the cameras.... I can't see how even the most brazen of thieves can get away with this- and also think its just a random thing to steal- I have been inside pubs before and if some bloke (or even women) came up to me offering me a slab of meat, unrefridgerated :eek:and possibly grey, I'd refuse point blank- and thats without even considering how the person may have obtained it.

Just odd, very odd! I think they are all secretly mystery shopper/shop lifters out to write a report on the security team or wannabe body builders who ran out of cash after forking out for several 100 Lbs of dumbells!:rotfl:

I dont think people steal meat and food to sell.

I think it would fall under these type of people

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/crime/article6910302.ece

People used to quality food but cant afford it anymore lol.

But when i have free time i look at all the news articles and videos and some of them are really obvious one guy in america he was looking all around even looked in to the camera then put some food up his jumper.

but i think after all the reading the ones that get away with it usually find a blind spot where the cameras cant see they move fast and take small things like shaving stuff ,batteries ,cheese , condoms that kinda stuff and then they sell it on.

You would think security tags would stop them but some take magnets with them to remove the tags.

But the dumbest video i have seen was on youtube here in the uk
two girls shoplift they are really obvious and they video tape themselves doing it and post it on youtube and get this you can see their faces

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tmriMMwZ09Q

:rotfl::rotfl::rotfl:

jackieb

I used to work in a supermarket. The serious shoplifters used to take bottles of booze and hide them behind the nappies and come back for them later. Staff were always on the lookout for people stealing in the booze aisle, so if they moved their booty they thought they had more chance of not getting caught.

People used to steal the strangest things. They'd take plug-in air freshener refills out of their boxes and put the empty box back on the shelf. Why would you risk a criminal record for an air freshener?

kentguy07

jackieb wrote: »

I used to work in a supermarket. The serious shoplifters used to take bottles of booze and hide them behind the nappies and come back for them later. Staff were always on the lookout for people stealing in the booze aisle, so if they moved their booty they thought they had more chance of not getting caught.

People used to steal the strangest things. They'd take plug-in air freshener refills out of their boxes and put the empty box back on the shelf. Why would you risk a criminal record for an air freshener?

Perhaps the smell of their home was just to much to stand and that the only way they could rest at night is if something over powered the smell.

Maybe they where within a inch of their sanity from that awful smell who knows.

But seriously air freshers? no one steals them unless they are kinda dumb.
you would get a fine for more then the air fresheners worth and if you dont have the money to pay for it i think they keep you in jail over night
So all that for air freshener :eek:

That must have been one awful smell that's all i can say

juno

kentguy07 wrote: »

I dont think people steal meat and food to sell.

They do.

I don't know why, because I don't understand why anyone would want to buy meat in such a dodgy way as they don't know how it's been stored, but they do.

jenniewb

kentguy07 wrote: »

but i think after all the reading the ones that get away with it usually find a blind spot where the cameras cant see they move fast and take small things like shaving stuff ,batteries ,cheese , condoms that kinda stuff and then they sell it on.

This reminds me of the phrase our managers would say to us in our team meetings (just for that added team spirit!) that 60% (or something like that percentage) of all theft comes from the inside, store staff are more likely to thieve then customers. Used to make us feel right at home! But someone taking items where they know the security cameras cannot see? thats got to be an inside job! Still madness, the cost it would untlimatly cost when caught.

kentguy07 wrote: »

You would think security tags would stop them but some take magnets with them to remove the tags.

Yes! We were told about this when I worked in a store- we'd be told about all sorts of scams involving them, it just shocked me the types of things these people would come up with- you half want to just hand them over the items to stop them being so damn sneaky and having to watch your back all the time- I am still lost for words and think it actually scarred me- there are some 'types' of people I can never look at again without being reminded of this (through no fault of their own, they just fit the criterea given to us by the shopping center security guards.) They were almost as bad as the snatches.

Its was just so unfair as you think "oh its just a (insert well known brand here) store and they will recover their losses". But in one year our stores losses went from 1% to 5% and heads did roll. Staff were fired, the head office came in to check lockers 3 times a day, do random pocket searches once a day and install more staff cameras then store cameras. They employed a brand new management team who did not trust us as a team as they assumed we were all thieves. This badly hit staff moral yet in that past year we'd had about 5 snatches and several reported shoplifting scams which we had no knowledge on or how to stop. The head office still wouldn't employ a security guard for us, claiming we didn't make enough profit for the company to employ one for us. I left soon after.

Shoplifting has more of an effect then the company loss, it actually can affect the shop floor staff to as very often they get the blame for it and not stopping it, either its their fault for not being nice enough or for witnessing it and letting it go (as if!) they assumed we would see everything. As a result of that, the team can feel down and not work as hard, the group does not do as well when a team is not working as a team and then people begin to leave. Its a shame this doesn't get reported on too, I'd imagine it happens alot.

kentguy07

jenniewb wrote: »

This reminds me of the phrase our managers would say to us in our team meetings (just for that added team spirit!) that 60% (or something like that percentage) of all theft comes from the inside, store staff are more likely to thieve then customers. Used to make us feel right at home! But someone taking items where they know the security cameras cannot see? thats got to be an inside job! Still madness, the cost it would untlimatly cost when caught.



Yes! We were told about this when I worked in a store- we'd be told about all sorts of scams involving them, it just shocked me the types of things these people would come up with- you half want to just hand them over the items to stop them being so damn sneaky and having to watch your back all the time- I am still lost for words and think it actually scarred me- there are some 'types' of people I can never look at again without being reminded of this (through no fault of their own, they just fit the criterea given to us by the shopping center security guards.) They were almost as bad as the snatches.

Its was just so unfair as you think "oh its just a (insert well known brand here) store and they will recover their losses". But in one year our stores losses went from 1% to 5% and heads did roll. Staff were fired, the head office came in to check lockers 3 times a day, do random pocket searches once a day and install more staff cameras then store cameras. They employed a brand new management team who did not trust us as a team as they assumed we were all thieves. This badly hit staff moral yet in that past year we'd had about 5 snatches and several reported shoplifting scams which we had no knowledge on or how to stop. The head office still wouldn't employ a security guard for us, claiming we didn't make enough profit for the company to employ one for us. I left soon after.

Shoplifting has more of an effect then the company loss, it actually can affect the shop floor staff to as very often they get the blame for it and not stopping it, either its their fault for not being nice enough or for witnessing it and letting it go (as if!) they assumed we would see everything. As a result of that, the team can feel down and not work as hard, the group does not do as well when a team is not working as a team and then people begin to leave. Its a shame this doesn't get reported on too, I'd imagine it happens alot.

A shoplifter who was good at what they do would not have to watch their back much.

They would go in shop as normal then make their way over to the items they want to take then they would either find a blind spot to hide whatever they had and then leave.

I have a radio scanner with close call feature and today i was in town and security at the shopping center gave out over the radio one shoplifter had taken £150 worth of jackets and they took them over to customer service and tried to return them for a refund. Security was called and the guy ran for his life and the police where called.

radio scanners are fun and legal just as long as you dont listen in to emergency services.

Times iv sat in the food court at the weekend and listened to retail security as they where going after a obvious shoplifter.

What gets me even more is why security use unencrypted channels because anyone could be listening to them. Suppose that shoplifter who took £150 in jackets had a radio scanner and could hear them talking about him over the radio he would just walk away and they would never catch them.

jenniewb

kentguy07 wrote: »

A shoplifter who was good at what they do would not have to watch their back much.

They would go in shop as normal then make their way over to the items they want to take then they would either find a blind spot to hide whatever they had and then leave.

I have a radio scanner with close call feature and today i was in town and security at the shopping center gave out over the radio one shoplifter had taken £150 worth of jackets and they took them over to customer service and tried to return them for a refund. Security was called and the guy ran for his life and the police where called.

radio scanners are fun and legal just as long as you dont listen in to emergency services.

Times iv sat in the food court at the weekend and listened to retail security as they where going after a obvious shoplifter.

What gets me even more is why security use unencrypted channels because anyone could be listening to them. Suppose that shoplifter who took £150 in jackets had a radio scanner and could hear them talking about him over the radio he would just walk away and they would never catch them.

Thats what made me :eek: too!

Reminds me of a friend who once took home one of the work radios (by mistake) she was able to tune into some wierd radio station and what she things were bits of a taxi firm, not clear cut messages as the radios wouldn't pick up any frequency further then about 300m but she was suprized at it still working (especially as the batteries were so rubbish!)

This is often how illegal cabs work: Always always always ask for id before stepping into a cab, even if they have your name. Its a scary world out there!

Clowance

having had a spate of the bleeper going off as I left the shop recently ("oh the tag is inside the sealed box, can I open it" (actually no, its a gift - this was a hard drive ) to sd cards, to clothes where assistant hasn't taken tag off. I find this very embarassing when I have paid for the items and have the receipt. I can't imagine what it is like to be taken to the managers office and falsely accused. If this were to happen, what redress would we have - if they bill you if you are guilty, can we bill them likewise if innocent for timewasting and slander? Any lawyers out there?

worried_jim

Abbafan1972 wrote: »

Very interesting thread this.

I remember watching a programme years ago about a woman who made a living out of shoplifting. She would steal the stuff and then take it back for a refund.

I reckon people get a buzz from doing it, but I could never do it! :eek:

I know who you mean but it's really bugging me cos I cant remember her name and I came across her once in the early 90's when she spent the day shop lifting at Fosse Park and managed to fill a taxi with nicked goods before getting caught.

jackieb

I bought a pair of pyjamas from Tesco where they left the tag on. Didn't realise until I got home as no bleeper went off. I told my dh to leave it alone and i'd take them back (which is inconveniant but I would've done it) but he persisted in trying to prise the tag off which resulted in a pair of holey pyjamas!