40 stone lady

DrScotsman

custardy wrote: »

i havent a clue what you are talking about

Me neither, makes no sense to me.

Google wrote:

40 stones = 254.011727 kilograms

That's better

Pollycat

evg002 wrote: »

After reading the story about the 40 stone mum who was rescued from her home by firefighters, I was amazed at how this poor lady could be left like that. How many times do the authorities need to fail before they actually sort themselves out!

Why did you edit your original post to take out your ranting reference to Caremark Leeds?

The Daily Mail article doesn't mention this organisation.

Do you have an axe to grind with Caremark Leeds?

Poor lady left like that?

Who exactly left her "like that"?
What were her 3 daughters doing in the 3 years since she became bedridden?

She'd not left her house for over 3 years so that would be May 2007.
She said in the article that she

was partially paralysed after contracting MRSA in December 2008 and her immobility led to her gaining more weight.

So why didn't she leave the house between May 2007 and November 2008?

How much did she weigh in May 2007?

Let's have the full story before you start throwing accusations.

SailorSam

Where did you read this story.
Sounds like 'whispers' where the tale gets embellished.
either that or you're coming on as a first time poster trying to get a reaction.
Prove people wrong, post a link.

Proc

CarerQuie wrote: »

I am so sad to see the total lack of compassion shown to someone who is morbidly obese. If it was just a matter of eating less and exercising more people would do it.

However,obesity is a complex issue and is different from other addictions in that you need to eat to live.

Dietitians can tell people what to eat but this doesn't address the underlying addictive and psychological issues which will be lurking in the background for someone with such an immense weight.

Just because this is an area that all of you moral upright thin people have control over,not everyone does.

Obese people face the same addiction issues as alcoholics.

Please think before just being so judgemental.

I used to be obese but have shed a lot of weight and will face an uphill struggle to remain slim.It isn't as easy as you all think. xx

Don't be so ridiculous. They're addicted to eating. It's not a medical condition, it is entirely their fault. Same as alcoholics. Their fault, they got themselves there in the first place, it's up to them to get out of it.

You said yourself you used to be obese. But you managed to fix it, so well done. But as long as we stop blaming the real reason (greed and laziness) and keep on putting it down as an illness, the problem is just going to get worse.

I fully appreciate that some people are naturally of larger build than others, but stop being so PC and saying it's not their fault.

I watched a program about the guy who used to be the fattest guy in england. He lived in a bedroom in his parents pub. He blamed his dad leaving the family, he's addicted blah blah. But guess what he did all day? Yeh, he sat in his room with his mum bringing him plates of pies and chips for breakfast, lunch and dinner.

Oh, and guess how he lost all his weight? Yeh, that's right; he stopped eating so much, and started doing some exercise. It's really not rocket science.

custardy

jimbms wrote: »

Sometimes you have to be cruel to be kind. 2 years ago a bloke near me sat in his garden, he is over 30 stone and quite a pleasant bloke, but he was moaning that his doctor wouldn't do anything about what they think may be a possible heart condition until he has lost a lot of weight, this he did not want to do as he is happy as he his. I then pointed out that when he has the almost inevitable heart attack, the paramedics who attend will have no chance of lifting him and by the time they get help and get him to hospital it will be too late. Seems he thought about this, he is now 17 stone after 20 months and still losing it and has thanked me for the harsh but wakeup call words.

I wonder if for some 'fat camps' are the answer
I do some training and one session a week is a conditioning class
basically done in a drill instructor style in high intensity
for me it works,that style of training suits me and i get results from it

so for some obese people then i think the same ethos would work for them to go to some sort of camp environment (like the TV versions)
for education and hopefully motivation
i know not for all but for some surely

Freddie_Snowbits

JohalaReewi wrote: »

It's in the Daily Mail !!

Bu99er

nuff said

jimbms

Simple solution is once you get over a certain weight and refuse any help to get rid of it then you get informed that until you do so an ambulance will not attend and it is up to themselves or relatives/friends to get them to hospital. Let's be serious here, with the amount of body fat a 40 stone person has the chance of a portable defibralator working is minimal and you can forget CPR altogether, just not worth the time and effort. So once these people realise their death is iminent and do something the better.

crackerberry

It doesn't mention anything in the article but she could have (or have had) a partner who's a "feeder" ie a man who gets off on hugely obese women. They deliberately feed them to get them to these obscene sizes and some take photos etc to "diarise" the weight gain to share with other "feeders". Sick, but true.

dmg24

CarerQuie wrote: »

I am so sad to see the total lack of compassion shown to someone who is morbidly obese. If it was just a matter of eating less and exercising more people would do it.

However,obesity is a complex issue and is different from other addictions in that you need to eat to live.

Dietitians can tell people what to eat but this doesn't address the underlying addictive and psychological issues which will be lurking in the background for someone with such an immense weight.

Just because this is an area that all of you moral upright thin people have control over,not everyone does.

Obese people face the same addiction issues as alcoholics.

Please think before just being so judgemental.

I used to be obese but have shed a lot of weight and will face an uphill struggle to remain slim.It isn't as easy as you all think. xx

To be fair, you are making as many assumptions as anybody else is.

Yes, she could have underlying health issues, but equally she could just like food far too much.

I am overweight (nowhere near 40 stone, or even half that!), and any efforts I make to lose weight are pretty fruitless because of my health problems (these were not caused by me being larger). However, I reached the size I am because of my poor eating habits.

I have pretty much accepted that I am unlikely to get any smaller than I am, but I am making efforts to maintain rather than increase my weight, and do feel healthier for it.

custardy wrote: »

I wonder if for some 'fat camps' are the answer
I do some training and one session a week is a conditioning class
basically done in a drill instructor style in high intensity
for me it works,that style of training suits me and i get results from it

so for some obese people then i think the same ethos would work for them to go to some sort of camp environment (like the TV versions)
for education and hopefully motivation
i know not for all but for some surely

There are a few 'fat camps' in the UK, but sadly the cost is prohibitive to most people. I think the NHS could save a fortune in setting up their own - a one off cost for a few months would save a fortune compared to the lifetime costs of being overweight.

custardy

dmg24 wrote: »

There are a few 'fat camps' in the UK, but sadly the cost is prohibitive to most people. I think the NHS could save a fortune in setting up their own - a one off cost for a few months would save a fortune compared to the lifetime costs of being overweight.

sorry yeah i should have clarified
i meant provided by the NHS
making a stab,but im betting most of the morbidly obese people will not be on high wages or working at all
so if these people can be brought down in weight and stay down then the savings in heath care/ability to work could be beneficial for all

can any lessons be learned from what the USA has or hasnt done?