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Utility Warehouse (Telecom Plus) Discussion

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  • Cardew
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    Thanks for that Cardew. How many rooms is that consumption for? Are you including the Downstairs as well as the Upstairs? ;)

    Figures were provided by my Butler and I never thought to ask!

    He is not very reliable and I should have got rid of him years ago; he would have made an ideal UW Distributor;)
  • Ignite
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    I have to say that all of this rubbish that is being thrown about by UW reps is very selective. A few days ago I posted EXACT annual figures for my gas and electricity supply along with a load of costs based on real per unit costs. http://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/showpost.php?p=39668844&postcount=682

    When this was in black and white on the page, I got very little comment from the UW reps about the fact that their prices come out over £200 more expensive per year that I pay at the moment and when my fix price deal ends later this month, more than £144 more expensive that Scottish Power who I'm moving to. Oh, don't forget that I'm getting £62 cashback for the move to SP and also online discounts on top of all of this £144 saving over UW prices :).

    When the cashback card is taken into consideration, based on the list of companies involved in the scheme and where I shop, I would only get in the region of £50 cashback per year if I was lucky. (£150 per month at Sainsburys and on average £10 per month at B&Q). Still doesn't make up for all of the hot air from the UW reps about savings come from the card.
  • For UW to work out cheaper for me on Gas and Electric, assuming I got 3% cashback on all purchases, I'd need to spend £920 a month on their cashback card.

    So to all those who do manage to somehow get cheaper gas and electric that way I admire you because it would be impossible for me!
  • MillicentBystander
    MillicentBystander Posts: 3,518 Forumite
    edited 5 January 2011 at 10:47PM
    Ignite wrote: »
    I have to say that all of this rubbish that is being thrown about by UW reps is very selective. A few days ago I posted EXACT annual figures for my gas and electricity supply along with a load of costs based on real per unit costs. http://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/showpost.php?p=39668844&postcount=682

    When this was in black and white on the page, I got very little comment from the UW reps about the fact that their prices come out over £200 more expensive per year that I pay at the moment and when my fix price deal ends later this month, more than £144 more expensive that Scottish Power who I'm moving to. Oh, don't forget that I'm getting £62 cashback for the move to SP and also online discounts on top of all of this £144 saving over UW prices :).

    When the cashback card is taken into consideration, based on the list of companies involved in the scheme and where I shop, I would only get in the region of £50 cashback per year if I was lucky. (£150 per month at Sainsburys and on average £10 per month at B&Q). Still doesn't make up for all of the hot air from the UW reps about savings come from the card.


    To be fair to these 'UW reps' you are talking about, there are some Sainsburys/Asda/M&S customers who spend what you do in a month in a week. I don't think anyone is saying it will save everybody money, it won't, but it can save some people money. That wouldn't include you. Although to be fair, even on your low monthly spend at Sainsburys, it would make the £10 mobile SIM incredibly cheap.
  • Ignite
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    I must confess that I get through about £10 every 2 to 3 months on Tesco Mobile Lite PAYG tariff so mobiles don't come into the equation. Thank you though for admitting that UW will not be able to save me money. A refreshing change from the normal UW attitude.
  • I don't think it is, Ignite. From what I've read of the reps on here, they seem to make it clear it isn't going to save everybody money but, in the right circumstances, can save some people money. Compared to the Big 6 they are tiny and will probably always remain so, so I don't suppose they will ever need to accumulate millions & millions of customers to carry on being the success they are. There are approx 8 million households who would probably find their tariffs very competitive even without using the cash back card, I guess.
  • NigeWick
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    edited 6 January 2011 at 7:16PM
    Sorry Nige but that is nonsense.

    The compare prices tool on the UW warehouse is rubbish and inaccurate, while the unit prices guide doesn't say how to find out which region you are in or what the low, medium and high boundaries are.
    Here's what I said >>>Utility Warehouse web site has all the unit costs for all the regions.<<< I did not say use a comparison feature.

    Here's a link with no affiliate association: https://www.utilitywarehouse.co.uk/home/Energy/

    Click on Tariffs and you get a map with all the areas on it. Click on the area an see the unit prices, including Low, Standard & High user, plus the standing charges. It even says that VAT is not included on the information shown.

    Or is that you could not really be bothered to look yourself and thought you would complain anyway?

    I am an independent partner with Utility Warehouse and the views I express may not be shared by the company.
    The mind of the bigot is like the pupil of the eye; the more light you pour upon it, the more it will contract.
    Oliver Wendell Holmes
  • NigeWick
    NigeWick Posts: 2,730 Forumite
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    edited 6 January 2011 at 7:16PM
    Ignite wrote: »
    When the cashback card is taken into consideration, based on the list of companies involved in the scheme and where I shop, I would only get in the region of £50 cashback per year if I was lucky. (£150 per month at Sainsburys and on average £10 per month at B&Q). Still doesn't make up for all of the hot air from the UW reps about savings come from the card.
    Simple. The company will not work out best value for you. Go elsewhere. It works out just right for me, so I am happy with the value I get.

    I am an independent partner with Utility Warehouse and the views I express may not be shared by the company.
    The mind of the bigot is like the pupil of the eye; the more light you pour upon it, the more it will contract.
    Oliver Wendell Holmes
  • NigeWick
    NigeWick Posts: 2,730 Forumite
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    edited 6 January 2011 at 7:16PM
    So to all those who do manage to somehow get cheaper gas and electric that way I admire you because it would be impossible for me!
    I refer you to my reply to Ignite.

    I am an independent partner with Utility Warehouse and the views I express may not be shared by the company.
    The mind of the bigot is like the pupil of the eye; the more light you pour upon it, the more it will contract.
    Oliver Wendell Holmes
  • Did you read my last post Nige? Clearly not because you've ignored everything I said thus making yourself look foolish. The compare prices link is on the UW website. That is what I referred to in my last post about compare prices. I also said in my last post that I'd looked at the website but couldn't find a bit that told me whether I was a low, standard or high user. I also said there was no way of telling which area of the map I am covered by. Before you make a patronising map reading comment, I'm practically on the border.

    Of course I said all this in my last post but you ignored every word I said. I hope that you'll re-read my post and apologise. I doubt it.

    A website should be clear and give all the information a user needs straight away. The UW website doesn't, as my comments show. Again, instead of a patronising reply, take it as CONSTRUCTIVE CRITISISM!!!
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