Utility Warehouse (Telecom Plus) Discussion

Meeper

No, that's not quite factually correct. Your protest of "It's not me who says the uw card is risky" is incorrect, as you personally say it often. As I initially requested, please outline the elements of risk associated with the card. Facts are good.

Quentin

Meeper wrote: »

No, that's not quite factually correct. Your protest of "It's not me who says the uw card is risky" is incorrect, as you personally say it often. As I initially requested, please outline the elements of risk associated with the card. Facts are good.

As I have shown, it was not me who originally warned the card was risky.

It was the uw itself.

No uw reps ever have pointed this out to moneysavers here.

I have. It is now known as the risky card (bit like your triple guarantee is now know as the worthless guarantee).

End of.

Meeper

But.....what are the risks?

And please don't forget about my other question above - in post 890.

Many thanks in anticipation of your answers.

Meeper
--UW Distributor and Customer.

Meeper

Ah, leaving all bile-fuelled hating aside (because it only feeds the trolls), please let him answer the questions put. Your post will only serve to give him something else to post about and thus attempt to avoid my questions.

It's all gone quiet over there.....

Meeper

Why has it all gone quite from the nay-sayers? I asked some simple questions that required something substantive to back up comments made, and I get nothing in reply. I can only conclude that the silence means that there is nothing substantive behind their words, thus they have nothing to say.

"UW's tariffs are high" - not disputed, but that's not the whole story, as has been pointed out. I'm still waiting to hear answers to my questions above.
"Risky UW Card" - refusals to explain how it is risky, we only get a "UW says it is" - problem is that when you make a statement, you should believe it, so why do you think it is risky?

I'm trying hard here to stimulate a sensible and adult debate based on facts and detail. The fact that it has all gone quiet would seem to suggest that I am the only one interested in having such debate and that Quentin and friends are only interested in making throw-away comments and generic remarks which, far from educating and helping, only give misinformation and bias.

If it's not misinformation and bias, then I look forward to reading some evidence, proof and facts, as well as some answers to questions that I have been waiting for pages to read only to see the questions avoided time after time.

Meeper
--UW Distributor and customer

Cardew

Meeper wrote: »

I look forward to reading some evidence, proof and facts,
Meeper
--UW Distributor and customer

New readers - ignore the bickering, this cannot be disputed:

Anyone contemplating joining UW, or current UW customers, should concentrate on UW prices.

The average UK customer uses 20,500kWh gas and 3,300kWh electricity pa. Using energyhelpline for my area(Midlands) they list 80 tariffs available in order of cost. UW have 3 tariffs and are ranked in 67th, 68th & 78th position.

The cheapest tariff for the above consumption is £944. The cheapest UW tariff costs £1,190. So UW costs £246(26%) more than the cheapest available tariff.

Meeper

It cannot be disputed indeed.

Concentrating on cost, however, is more beneficial than concentrating on price, no? It's more important to weigh up exactly what goes out of your bank account every month rather than tariffs, I would expect.

So, I shall throw in that I spend £1100 per month in Sainsbury's, and not include any other shops, etc that I might spend money in. £1100 per month is £13,200 per annum. With the 3% cashback that I get from doing my shopping there, that's a total annual credit of £396 off my bill. Now that £1,190 is down to £794, which is cheaper than your cheapest tariff of £944, so I could say that UW is cheaper than your cheapest offering by £150 per annum.

Now, let me get one thing straight here. UW do not have the cheapest gas and electricity prices, nor will you find any claim that they do on any of their official websites. Any UW distributor claiming the cheapest TARIFFS is just wrong. But, it may follow that the cheapest TARIFF is not necessarily the cheapest TOTAL COST when taking other factors into account.

Please don't talk about other services now, this is the Gas & Electricity section, right, so let's talk about gas & electricity, not anything else. I have outlined above how UW can provide a lower amount going out of my bank account than the £944 quoted by E.On in the energyhelpline quote. Can someone please take a structured and coherent approach to this and give some logical reasoning why I would NOT want to take the UW contract in this scenario.

Regards,

Meeper
--UW Distributor

NigeWick

TwittersPVFC wrote: »

But are you spending too much by shopping at Sainsbury's Meeper when Asda and Tesco are cheaper?

There's no Asda or Tesco where I live and I presume that you have forgotten that Asda are now on board with the pre payement card too. As I have said before, Utility Warehouse may not be for everybody but it works for me, and that means it can work for a lot of other people as well.

I am an independent distributor with Utility Warehouse and the views I express may not be shared by the company.

NigeWick

TwittersPVFC wrote: »

You're a petty and vindictive poster

The words pot, kettle and black come to mind as you refuse to accept that people other than yourself make choices that you would not. I previously showed my figures and proved that by using the pre payment card, I pay less for my utilities than I would with any other company or combination of companies. I was then told that I should buy my electricity and gas elsewhere and just take the phone and broadband services. That would mean I would not get my "free" phone calls to foreign countries where there are people I phone on a reasonably regular basis. The overall package from Utility Warehouse suits the way I shop and what I want. I do not tell you how to run your life and I object to you and others trying to come up with some mythical best deal for me when I am content with what I have got. I do check the figures every now and again and Utility Warehouse still comes out on top FOR WHAT *I* WANT.

janninew

Ghost_of_Bundlesave wrote: »

Was away on holiday having good break.

Came back to this and found that I'm banned for touting ... Did I tout for a business?? Just gave my honest view even I'm a Distributor (even believe that they are crap for Gas / Elec).

I bet someone will complain about me now _pale_

After reading your posts, I don't believe you were touting for business, we've seen it done by UW Distributors before, but I wouldn't say you were touting. I found your posts to be honest and you declared yourself as required, Some petty person obviously hit the spam or abuse button, I personally can't think why and I don't agree you should have been banned, very silly in my opinion.