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AMD Phenom x4 heatsink/fan question

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gaming_guy
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edited 20 May 2010 at 5:28PM in Techie Stuff
(Thread title was originally: AMD Phenom x4 ideal temps?)
Please see post# 13 for update

Hi all,

I've got an AMD Phenom x4 9950 BE processor (on an asus mobo - can't remember the model no) and was wondering if 46-50 degrees is about the right temperature for it to be operating at with the stock amd heatsink/fan combo?

(as i type, it's hovering at 45/46 degrees as reported by lmsensors on ubuntu 9.10)

TIA :)

g_g
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  • bengalknights
    bengalknights Posts: 5,021 Forumite
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    thats fine mines phenom 2 x4 is currently running at 45c which is normal temperatur for these on just plain air
  • GeoffX
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    According to http://products.amd.com/en-ca/DesktopCPUDetail.aspx?id=447 the maximum temperature for that CPU is 61C.
  • gaming_guy wrote: »
    Hi all,

    I've got an AMD Phenom x4 9950 BE processor (on an asus mobo - can't remember the model no) and was wondering if 46-50 degrees is about the right temperature for it to be operating at with the stock amd heatsink/fan combo?

    (as i type, it's hovering at 45/46 degrees as reported by lmsensors on ubuntu 9.10)

    TIA :)

    g_g

    Assuming a desktop !

    Temp is ok, summer is coming, don't know how long you've had it but if it's older than three months and you have a vacum cleaner it's less efficient than when you bought it.

    Puters love fluff and dust more than the pope loves Catholics, take your sides off first, take it to any local garage, give the fitters the price of a pint / sandwich / and ask them to blow out CPU / PSU etc with an air gun !

    It will put your mind at rest, cool your puter, make it quieter / all round a cheap benefit to you in MSE terms.

    Hope this helps / reassures.
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  • poppy10_2
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    45 degrees at idle is fine, don't worry
    poppy10
  • gaming_guy
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    GeoffX wrote: »
    According to http://products.amd.com/en-ca/DesktopCPUDetail.aspx?id=447 the maximum temperature for that CPU is 61C.
    Thanks for that link :). Seeing that page was what worried me because i thought it was overheating while running at idle.
    Assuming a desktop !

    Temp is ok, summer is coming, don't know how long you've had it but if it's older than three months and you have a vacum cleaner it's less efficient than when you bought it.

    Puters love fluff and dust more than the pope loves Catholics, take your sides off first, take it to any local garage, give the fitters the price of a pint / sandwich / and ask them to blow out CPU / PSU etc with an air gun !

    It will put your mind at rest, cool your puter, make it quieter / all round a cheap benefit to you in MSE terms.

    Hope this helps / reassures.

    Thanks for that :)

    yes it's a desktop (which is about 2/3 yrs old). I did give the heatsink & fan a good clean as the gaps between the fins on the heatsink were caked even though the rest of the machine wasn't too bad.
    poppy10 wrote: »
    45 degrees at idle is fine, don't worry

    Thanks for that :).
  • gaming_guy wrote: »
    Thanks for that link :). Seeing that page was what worried me because i thought it was overheating while running at idle.



    Thanks for that :)

    yes it's a desktop (which is about 2/3 yrs old). I did give the heatsink & fan a good clean as the gaps between the fins on the heatsink were caked even though the rest of the machine wasn't too bad.



    Thanks for that :).

    You are welcome my friend, but .. .. .. put a proper airline into what you think is a clean computer and you'll get a cloud of dust similar to Eyjafjallajökull.

    If you want to know what the temp is at maximum CPU cycles go into your BIOS, somewhere in there it will tell you the CPU temp. Reading this temp at BIOS / DOS level means the CPU / HLT command is not invoked and your CPU will run at an unchecked 100%.

    All you need to know is your CPU will always run cooler in Windows than DOS !
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  • [Deleted User]
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    It's probably worth taking the time to clean out the case and fans, remove the Heatsink and fan and replace it with something more effective (and probably quieter) along with the Thermal Interface Material in between the CPU and Heatsink.

    45-50 degrees, is that the temperature during any kind of load or is it just general computing use? The ambience of the room the computer is in will be a factor in the overall temperature, and obviously as we enter the warmer months the temperatures will increase which might not leave you very much headroom at all.
  • poppy10_2
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    Download and run OCCT, it will tell you what your max temps are at full load.
    poppy10
  • gaming_guy
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    You are welcome my friend, but .. .. .. put a proper airline into what you think is a clean computer and you'll get a cloud of dust similar to Eyjafjallajökull.
    :rotfl:
    If you want to know what the temp is at maximum CPU cycles go into your BIOS, somewhere in there it will tell you the CPU temp. Reading this temp at BIOS / DOS level means the CPU / HLT command is not invoked and your CPU will run at an unchecked 100%.

    All you need to know is your CPU will always run cooler in Windows than DOS !

    it was 33 - 40 degrees after being switched on this morning (temps read from bios, and after the machine has been switched on after being left off overnight). after a reboot, the temp sits at around 48-55 degrees.
    anewhope wrote: »
    It's probably worth taking the time to clean out the case and fans, remove the Heatsink and fan and replace it with something more effective (and probably quieter) along with the Thermal Interface Material in between the CPU and Heatsink.

    45-50 degrees, is that the temperature during any kind of load or is it just general computing use? The ambience of the room the computer is in will be a factor in the overall temperature, and obviously as we enter the warmer months the temperatures will increase which might not leave you very much headroom at all.

    current temp is 54 degrees with firefox, rhythmbox and vmware WS (running a win7 x64 guest) running. this temp is when the processor has been throttled down to 1.3ghz from 2.6ghz. ETA: it peaked at 65 degrees while writing the post, but it's now back to 43 degrees

    if it doesn't improve, then i think will replace the thermal paste/HSF as i'd imagine that it's not doing the hardware any good running at high temps.
    poppy10 wrote: »
    Download and run OCCT, it will tell you what your max temps are at full load.

    Thanks for the link.

    I'll download it now and test it when i next get the chance to boot into win7.
  • gaming_guy,

    So your ' warmed up ' temp @ 100% CPU use in DOS is 50 [ish ]
    And your ' light ' use temp in Windows is 65 [ ish ]

    Sitting at idle in Windows, look at your task manager / performance tab.

    What level of CPU usage do you see on your processors ?
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