police broke door down and won't pay for it

vaio

ventureuk wrote: »

........Keep up the posts, there is some comedy gold for my book here.

I’m glad it’s keeping you amused and good luck with the book, there is more comedy gold at

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/ukne...pensation.html

“In September drugs officers from Northamptonshire Police terrified a young mother when they tried to smash down her front door with a battering ram - with a warrant for next door.
Nursery nurse Carly Payne, 24, was breastfeeding five-day-old daughter Bella on the sofa when police burst in, arresting her partner, stepfather and his friend - who were later released without charge.”

caught my eye particularly although the “burst in” bit is slightly inaccurate, reportedly they hit the door with their ram 16 times and failed to get in. The mother and child, who had gone to the door to see what was going on then passed them the keys through the letterbox so they could unlock the door.

Ignoring the amusement factor I do find it slightly scary that highly trained MOE officers are given access to oxy cutting gear whilst apparently being unable to read door numbers on a pre planned operation.

Meanwhile, back to reality and the OP, the link above reports that police forces last year paid out over £500,000 for repairs where….

“…….the search is not lawful or force used cannot be shown to be reasonable, proportionate and necessary……”

In the OPs case I’d say there is at least a question mark on all these points and she should pursue it (and hopefully let us know the outcome)


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lemontart

Caroline73 wrote: »

So the police broke in as the tenant failed to turn up to work so was reported missing. If the tenant had called his work to say he wasn't going in, it wouldn't have happened. The tenant is at fault, make him pay.

if he as you say had told your mother he was going on Holiday why did he not book holiday off at work - down to tenant imho not meeting his contractual agreement with employer and following their procedure but they obviously had reason to be concerned for his well being given that they actually contacted the police to report hims missing rather than waiting to discipline him for being awol when and if he rolled into work

DVardysShadow

vaio wrote: »

I’m glad it’s keeping you amused and good luck with the book, there is more comedy gold at

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/crime/6900951/Police-forces-pay-500000-compensation.html

“In September drugs officers from Northamptonshire Police terrified a young mother when they tried to smash down her front door with a battering ram - with a warrant for next door.....”

... Ignoring the amusement factor I do find it slightly scary that highly trained MOE officers are given access to oxy cutting gear whilst apparently being unable to read door numbers on a pre planned operation.

Reading door numbers is beneath anyone who is trained in that

ventureuk wrote: »

... I'm afraid that 'care' does not come into forcing entry to a building, safety and speed are the priorities based on a dynamic risk assessment and appropriate use of powers by the attending staff.

Door numbers just get in the way of the bigger picture.

ventureuk

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/features/2539717/2009-Police-Bravery-Awards-We-celebrate-brave-officers.html

You are welcome to attend the 2010 event vaio, they will welcome you as a guest speaker.

Shadow you too are welcome.

You will be able to explain all the good that you have contributed to your communities.

vaio

Thanks for the invite, for some reason I’m reminded of “[FONT=&quot]patriotism is the last refuge[/FONT] of a [FONT=&quot]scoundrel[/FONT]”

Wrapping yourself in the Sun supported flag celebrating the bravery of 60 policemen does not add any weight to your argument that the police should be exempt from scrutiny any more than http://rds.homeoffice.gov.uk/rds/pdfs04/hosb1704.pdf would add any weight to an argument that all police are corrupt/bullies/racist/rapists etc etc just because 1000 police have been disciplined/sacked/convicted of assorted misbehaviour

The police have powers but those powers are by the consent of society and such consent includes scrutiny

ERICS_MUM

Blimey ! Just popped onto MSE to catch up and found that this thread is still going strong. Has the idea of claiming from mother's insurance company been completely discounted now ?

kev1744

got to say it seems to have changed from a "who should pay" debate into certain members using it to have a pop at the police.
as has been said before it seems for the police "damned if they do and damned if they dont"

nadnad

RadoJo wrote: »

In fairness, the OP has not said whether their Mum has even attempted to contact the tenant - I can understand the frustration and unwillingness to take the hit, I just think going after the police because they are an easier option seems a little harsh considering that any compensation will effectively come out of the public pocket, and there is clearly an element of irresponsibility on the tenant's part which lead to the problem.

my mum has spoken to the tenent a long while ago- which i have said and he said he was back in lithuania - where we assume he still is. it would be impossible to track him down if he is over here as few of them register anything with their names on it - ie electoral register, phone bills etc.

exel1966

meritaten wrote: »

They certainly do! seen it happen when one git wouldnt give way to them! and good for them I wouldnt care how many cars they bumped out the way if MY house was on fire!

A myth, the emergency services do no such thing, they'd be fired for acting so wrecklessly.
It's up to the emergency service driver to find a way around any blockage, they certainly cannot bump anyone out of the way. :rotfl:

nadnad

lemontart wrote: »

if he as you say had told your mother he was going on Holiday why did he not book holiday off at work - down to tenant imho not meeting his contractual agreement with employer and following their procedure but they obviously had reason to be concerned for his well being given that they actually contacted the police to report hims missing rather than waiting to discipline him for being awol when and if he rolled into work

the tenent was a foreign national here to make some money, his friend who he formerly lived with (and who spoke very good english and who sort of spoke for this tenent) had already went home, i am not being racist or anything like that but he had no ties here and it is common in these parts for foreign nationals to up sticks and leave without a word to anyone - my mum was perhaps lucky that she managed to speak to him before he left because I would imagine he would have just left her flat without a word had she not got to speak to him shortly after his friend had left. (she had thought that he too was likely to leave)

as for the posts previous saying my mum better be above board - well i can assure you that she is - the tax man is well aware of her (small) rental income.