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lib are talking to labour please tell me it's not so
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How come the younger generation are complaining about the older generation having all the advantages if it was rubbish in the 70's and a fantastic new world order now. I just wondered
TBF, some of it was rubbish in the 70's:D Just not as greedy, spitefull and immoral as now imo:D"there are some persons in this World who, unable to give better proof of being wise, take a strange delight in showing what they think they have sagaciously read in mankind by uncharitable suspicions of them"(Herman Melville)0 -
moggylover wrote: »TBF, some of it was rubbish in the 70's:D Just not as greedy, spitefull and immoral as now imo:D
You must have been living a charmed life at the time. My recollection is that it was just the same. Indeed, I suspect it has been that way for hundreds, if not thousands, of years. Human nature does not change. It just wears different clothes now and then.0 -
I agree, but if they reformed it to majority rule (in terms of highest number of votes received) to stop this happening again I would not argue against TBH.
Votes or seats received?
It would stop nothing Really. The Tories are in a position where they can form a Government, but not one that can get much past the other representatives in the House of Commons:D
The crux of the matter is that in essence they have "won" the election, but without the guaranteed support of "others" that victory would prove pretty hollow when faced with huge opposition at every turn within the house and it is thus impossible for that to be "strong" government.
The "majority" that they have is just not big enough. In truth, many parties can struggle even when they do get the magic 326 which in theory means that they only have to persuade all of their own members to support legislation. If at 306, they have to persuade others at every turn it is going to be long-winded and fraught:)"there are some persons in this World who, unable to give better proof of being wise, take a strange delight in showing what they think they have sagaciously read in mankind by uncharitable suspicions of them"(Herman Melville)0 -
You must have been living a charmed life at the time. My recollection is that it was just the same. Indeed, I suspect it has been that way for hundreds, if not thousands, of years. Human nature does not change. It just wears different clothes now and then.
Ah well, perhaps you just mixed in the wrong circles;)"there are some persons in this World who, unable to give better proof of being wise, take a strange delight in showing what they think they have sagaciously read in mankind by uncharitable suspicions of them"(Herman Melville)0 -
moggylover wrote: »Ah well, perhaps you just mixed in the wrong circles;)
Perhaps. Or perhaps we have got to the root of the problem here. The Whig interpretation of history, which seems so popular here. Despite the overhelming evidence against it.0 -
I still think everyone is getting very excited about something not yet assured.
I would be opposed to a conservative minority government (despite tory vote) and think that if the rainbow coalition would like to have a go the major parties involved stand to lose through the association. (politics) and we stand to lose (socially and economically) through their losses. But, historically it would be interesting to see.
Presumably a change in the way we vote would see this sort of fuss and bluster often. So far, peeps, it looks more like Italian politics than I was promised by the forum.0 -
lostinrates wrote: »
I would be opposed to a conservative minority government (despite tory vote) .
and i'm all for it (depite labour vote);)Those who will not reason, are bigots, those who cannot, are fools, and those who dare not, are slaves. - Lord Byron0 -
lostinrates wrote: »I still think everyone is getting very excited about something not yet assured.
Done and dusted I think, Cameron [STRIKE]1.11[/STRIKE] 1.05 now.'Just think for a moment what a prospect that is. A single market without barriers visible or invisible giving you direct and unhindered access to the purchasing power of over 300 million of the worlds wealthiest and most prosperous people' Margaret Thatcher0 -
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lostinrates wrote: »Is it which way?
I've been in a car most of today and decided not to listen to Radio four ...
Tory/LibDem pact, senior LidDem person say it is the only show in town.'Just think for a moment what a prospect that is. A single market without barriers visible or invisible giving you direct and unhindered access to the purchasing power of over 300 million of the worlds wealthiest and most prosperous people' Margaret Thatcher0
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