Lib Dems & Tories... Can they work together?

Cat695

chucky wrote: »

and if the country was in such a mess as you portray why didn't the Conservatives win a land slide election victory instead of trying to scrape a majority with another party.

it's 13 years and 4 elections they've not been in power and they've 'taken the most seats since gods knows when' - they're looking a bit stuck.

the quicker GB get's out the better for the future Government.

So your saying NC should go with the most unpopular Government and other parties where he will have even less power?

mitchaa

chucky wrote: »

and if the country was in such a mess as you portray why didn't the Conservatives win a land slide election victory instead of trying to scrape a majority with another party.

it's 13 years and 4 elections they've not been in power and they've 'taken the most seats since gods knows when' - they're looking a bit stuck.

the quicker GB get's out the better for the future Government.

You have us Scots that will back the Labour government no matter their failings. In addition to this, Gordon has created a welfare state reliant on benefits. With all that, the Tories still have 2m more votes than Labour, that to me is a massive majority but the way the system works they are a little short on seats.

Bye Bye Labour, thank heavens. Tory-Lib Dem is a racing certainty now. DC IS the next prime minister.

Blacklight

Isn't PR even more of a hung parliament and even more unworkable, bureaucratic and unstable?

chucky

Cat695 wrote: »

So your saying NC should go with the most unpopular Government and other parties where he will have even less power?

no - i'm saying that DC doesn't come across as honest as you insinuated he was.

i've no idea NC will do but I'm sure he won't be doing it without it being a good political move for him. a good political move for him doesn't mean that it is good for the country. there's an obvious difference.

97trophy

chucky wrote: »

why didn't the Conservatives win a land slide election victory instead of trying to scrape a majority with another party.

IMO a huge number of people see David Cameron as an empty suit lacking in any true substance.

bioboybill

All this stuff about doing what is best for the country and not what's good for their party is a load of cobblers. All the parties want power and they'll all do anything to get it and to hang on to it. If Cameron was in brown's position he would do just the same and vice-versa.

chucky

97trophy wrote: »

IMO a huge number of people see David Cameron as an empty suit lacking in any true substance.

it may be true but you're not allowed to say that around here :j

Cat695

chucky wrote: »

no - i'm saying that DC doesn't come across as honest as you insinuated he was.

i've no idea NC will do but I'm sure he won't be doing it without it being a good political move for him. a good political move for him doesn't mean that it is good for the country. there's an obvious difference.

A good political move is to have only one person to argue with over things

A good political move is to have more power than before

If he goes with Labour he will have more than just one (remember labour more than just the lib dems) so therefore less power.

And seeing as he has already said the Tories should get first dibs he has acknowledged that DC won in the eyes of the people.

And lets not forget GB wasn't elected by the people!

Emy1501

chucky wrote: »

and if the country was in such a mess as you portray why didn't the Conservatives win a land slide election victory instead of trying to scrape a majority with another party.

it's 13 years and 4 elections they've not been in power and they've 'taken the most seats since gods knows when' - they're looking a bit stuck.

the quicker GB get's out the better for the future Government.

IMO its because GB promised to increase spending on the NHS,education, policing etc and was never really honest that cuts would have to be made. He gave off an impression that spending would carry on for ever. The majority do not know what the deficit is. The reality is of course is that at local level education etc is being cut.

GB new his chances of getting back in were slim so he could promise the earth to everyone. I suspect the reality is if there is a Lib/Lab pact there will be another election within a year with a Landslide Tory victory. Te Lib Dems have had a slap in the face. After all the expenses scandels etc, the reality is they honesty policy has not worked and its clear people don't really care about PR in view of the fact their vote only increased by 1%

Jonbvn

chucky wrote: »

DC wants change to look after his posh mates and the more wealthy people... he has little interest and has failed to connect with the more ordinary people in his own country due to his background and his connections to Ashcroft and the non-dom affair.

That is quite laughable, when you consider how completely disconnected from the populace and reality GB is. To substantiate this I offer you "Bigotgate".

Anyway, please stop canvassing & spinning and let the horse trading begin in earnest.