Boots Massive clearance incl gameboys, ps2 etc..... (Merged)

fifo_2

CheeseOnToast wrote:

Mate you're talking out of your !!!!!!.

Why shouldn't someone buy a bargain and sell it for a profit on ebay????? Believe it not the fundamental principle of business is being able to sell something for more than it cost to make/buy! Would you be saying the same if she was buying stuff at a car boot?

And how do you know they aren't going to declare it on their tax return?? I'm sick of hearing this type of attitude. If someone who doesn't have much money wants to try and make a few extra quid using some initiative then good luck to them I say, and anyone who thinks otherwise is just jealous they didn't do the same thing imo.

Sorry, but this sort of attitude on MSE is the pits.

The site is called "Moneysaving Experts", not "Ebay Professionals".

Nice, genuine, public spirited people on these forums have kindly taken time and effort, to kindly share hints and tips about how to get a good deal, what is on offer, and especially on a thread like this, post information about stores that have a very hard to find item in stock, with fellow MSEers who genuinly want the item making two hour trips to get the item they want.

It's public spirited, community spirited in an age of insular greed.

Those who use MSE to locate these bargains, then buy them all up to sell on Ebay are not behaving in the spirit of the MSE forums.

If this is the way people behave, then there is no point anybody wasting their time contributing to the forum to help other MSEers get a good deal, when all they are doing is helping some greedy gits

Personally, on a number of recent "Grabbits" I had information I decided not to post. I PMed people who seemed genuine. I decided against posting it as I thought that putting it on a public forum would only encourage the "vultures" and not the genuine. Result, MSE forums not as useful and efficient as they should be, to everybody's detriment.

People using MSE forums as an Ebay stocking forums, would mean that the end result will be that the MSE forums will become useless, and wither and die. Nobody will find any grabbits, because they won't be there. Then we ALL lose out.

" Why shouldn't someone buy a bargain and sell it for a profit on ebay????? "

Technically, no reason. But if those people have found that bargain through the use of the time, and help and public spirited actions of fellow MSEers, then they are abusing MSE ers good nature.

MSE ers are trying to help each other. Those who want to use that information to profit, by Cheeseontoasts logic, because it's "business", should then pay for the information.

Kill the golden goose that laid the golden eggs .....

the_other_mce

biglugs wrote:

Didn't we all?!
I have to say though a big thanks to Boots - the sales assistant in the Aylesbury store couldn't have been nicer! Not only did she get stuff out of the display cupboard for me (Nintendo DS and GBA bundles) but she also went to the store cupboard to see if they had any PSPs, and came back with only the PS2 and XBox bundles that they had in there, all during a busy lunchtime period. Excellent customer service, even if I was buying bargain stock!

Wow, well done!!! I should have popped in in my lunch break!!! Are the advantage points machines working yet? They always seem to have an out of order sign on them when I go in!!! I agree that the sales assistants in Aylesbury are really helpful whatever you ask them.

ben500

Picked up the last xbox in Queen st today.

anewman

CheeseOnToast wrote:

Why shouldn't someone buy a bargain and sell it for a profit on ebay?????

Some people actually *want* the item at the cheap price and to use and enjoy the item. I look down on people who deprive people because they see a product as a means to an end (money). Who deserves the item? The money making ebayer? Or a woman living on the poverty line on Benefits who could have never otherwise afforded a PS2 for her kids?!

CheeseOnToast wrote:

Believe it not the fundamental principle of business is being able to sell something for more than it cost to make/buy!

True - but if so why don't ebayer's set up a proper business and get a business registration number and VAT registered - have their business name etc registered - and pay taxes?!

Why don't they actually buy in bulk the way companies do - instead of abusing bargains on MSE and depriving otherwise genuine buyers of a bargain? There is more money to be made being a genuine business - buying bulk and selling on ebay - you don't think Boots would make a loss on the Xboxes do you? They'll either sell below RRP or sell on at what they cost them. It's a shame lots of ebayers are missing out on genuine money making opportunities by not becoming a genuine bonafide business.

CheeseOnToast wrote:

And how do you know they aren't going to declare it on their tax return??

How do you know that they do?! I would only *know* if ebay automatically deducted the amount from the final sale value to pass onto HM Customs and Revenue. HM Customs and Revenue believes ebay is a big problem for tax evasion - sorry but I agree with them.

CheeseOnToast wrote:

I'm sick of hearing this type of attitude.

The one thing I am sick of is every single time a bargain is on here - go to Ebay and it's (unsurprisingly) full of the stuff - and the fact I cannot buy the item I want at the price I want (presumably because ebayers bought large quantities) - and seeing someone selling the exact same item on Ebay. They never wanted the item or gave a crap about the item. They wanted £££.

So to Ebayers on here buying things for profit! Set up a proper business! Buy bulk and sell like a proper business! Pay taxes!

fifo wrote:

Those who want to use that information to profit, by Cheeseontoasts logic, because it's "business", should then pay for the information.

I agree - the information has financial value to the profiteers - it's only fair they should share the money they make with the people who told them about the bargain.

I'll bet those Ebayers are the *LAST* people to tell us all about a bargain they spot - they're probably around the country buying them all for their own gain and not giving in return what they get on this forum!

royalsteve

fifo wrote:

Sorry, but this sort of attitude on MSE is the pits.

The site is called "Moneysaving Experts", not "Ebay Professionals".

Nice, genuine, public spirited people on these forums have kindly taken time and effort, to kindly share hints and tips about how to get a good deal, what is on offer, and especially on a thread like this, post information about stores that have a very hard to find item in stock, with fellow MSEers who genuinly want the item making two hour trips to get the item they want.

It's public spirited, community spirited in an age of insular greed.

Those who use MSE to locate these bargains, then buy them all up to sell on Ebay are not behaving in the spirit of the MSE forums.

If this is the way people behave, then there is no point anybody wasting their time contributing to the forum to help other MSEers get a good deal, when all they are doing is helping some greedy gits

Personally, on a number of recent "Grabbits" I had information I decided not to post. I PMed people who seemed genuine. I decided against posting it as I thought that putting it on a public forum would only encourage the "vultures" and not the genuine. Result, MSE forums not as useful and efficient as they should be, to everybody's detriment.

People using MSE forums as an Ebay stocking forums, would mean that the end result will be that the MSE forums will become useless, and wither and die. Nobody will find any grabbits, because they won't be there. Then we ALL lose out.

" Why shouldn't someone buy a bargain and sell it for a profit on ebay????? "

Technically, no reason. But if those people have found that bargain through the use of the time, and help and public spirited actions of fellow MSEers, then they are abusing MSE ers good nature.

MSE ers are trying to help each other. Those who want to use that information to profit, by Cheeseontoasts logic, because it's "business", should then pay for the information.

Kill the golden goose that laid the golden eggs .....

Perhaps you should direct your fury at the retailers and distributors who making much much more than an ebayer!!

So its not ok for someone to get something cheap then sell it on ebay for a small profit....but its ok for dixons to buy something and add their huge markup

royalsteve

anewman wrote:

Some people actually *want* the item at the cheap price and to use and enjoy the item. I look down on people who deprive people because they see a product as a means to an end (money). Who deserves the item? The money making ebayer? Or a woman living on the poverty line on Benefits who could have never otherwise afforded a PS2 for her kids?!


True - but if so why don't ebayer's set up a proper business and get a business registration number and VAT registered - have their business name etc registered - and pay taxes?!

++++some do, as there benefits of doing this - but alot of people dont because of the incredible amount of paperwork and unneccessary complexity


Why don't they actually buy in bulk the way companies do - instead of abusing bargains on MSE and depriving otherwise genuine buyers of a bargain? There is more money to be made being a genuine business - buying bulk and selling on ebay - you don't think Boots would make a loss on the Xboxes do you? They'll either sell below RRP or sell on at what they cost them. It's a shame lots of ebayers are missing out on genuine money making opportunities by not becoming a genuine bonafide business.

++++distributors will not deal with individuals, trust me, i think the words monopoly / cartel springs to mind. Stop talking rubbish until you actually know what you are talking about......



How do you know that they do?! I would only *know* if ebay automatically deducted the amount from the final sale value to pass onto HM Customs and Revenue. HM Customs and Revenue believes ebay is a big problem for tax evasion - sorry but I agree with them.


The one thing I am sick of is every single time a bargain is on here - go to Ebay and it's (unsurprisingly) full of the stuff - and the fact I cannot buy the item I want at the price I want (presumably because ebayers bought large quantities) - and seeing someone selling the exact same item on Ebay. They never wanted the item or gave a crap about the item. They wanted £££.

So to Ebayers on here buying things for profit! Set up a proper business! Buy bulk and sell like a proper business! Pay taxes!

++++ How do you know they dont pay taxes

I agree - the information has financial value to the profiteers - it's only fair they should share the money they make with the people who told them about the bargain.

I'll bet those Ebayers are the *LAST* people to tell us all about a bargain they spot - they're probably around the country buying them all for their own gain and not giving in return what they get on this forum!

++++ Wrong i do....after ive bought yes but i dont always go mad as im not brave enough or that greedy and ebay used to be a hobby

anewman

royalsteve wrote:

So its not ok for someone to get something cheap then sell it on ebay for a small profit....but its ok for dixons to buy something and add their huge markup

That's not what we're saying at all. What we are saying is people who want items can't get them - because of people who want them just to make money (no reasonable person wants 10 XBoxes for example).

Why can't ebayers get a registered business and do the same as dixons et al do? Ok at first they won't be able to make as much as Dixons (and why should they expect to have a multimillion business empire from day one?! they only need say £20k a year to live on!) - but once they build a business reputation with their name they will command better prices and make more money in the future.

Remember! Dixons started somewhere!

Also if (for example) a PS2 is £50 in boots - it is either a) still making boots money or b) making boots the money back on how much it cost them to stock the item. Boots will never make a loss. Hence those who setup a business can easily get things cheaper than they will do by going around grabbing bargains from these forums by buying in bulk like businesses do. They will then still be making the same amount of money without the added cost of travelling across the country to various boots stores.

royalsteve wrote:

++++distributors will not deal with individuals, trust me, i think the words monopoly / cartel springs to mind. Stop talking rubbish until you actually know what you are talking about......

Have you ever bothered trying? I'm sure all they want is a registered business and VAT number - and the money for the goods obviously and you're away! I've seen many a nice small PC shop - probably run by just one person able to sell items at the same prices or lower than the big boys - presumably they make a profit and get their stock of hard disks, processors and so on from somewhere?!

royalsteve wrote:

++++some do, as there benefits of doing this - but alot of people dont because of the incredible amount of paperwork and unneccessary complexity

So you agree that ebayers are lazy money makers then?

And oops I think the thread should try sticking to boots Bargains from now on Maybe these posts could be split and we could have an Ebayers vs MSE'rs argument thread

fifo_2

royalsteve wrote:

Perhaps you should direct your fury at the retailers and distributors who making much much more than an ebayer!!

So its not ok for someone to get something cheap then sell it on ebay for a small profit....but its ok for dixons to buy something and add their huge markup

You are so wrong.

It is ok for someone to get something cheap and sell it on ebay for a small profit.

What is not OK is the vultures who use specifically use MSE for this purpose, and who therefore deprive all the genuine MSEers of getting something they really want / need / could not otherwise afford, and in doing so destroy any usefullness that the MSE forums have. Thread like this are helping people locate a very limited number of specific items. People buying them up for Ebay deprive MSEers of the opportunity.

MSE forums only works because of a community spirit and a generousity of spirit. People who help others are getting nothing financially out of it, what they are getting is the hope that they have helped another person and built and strengthened the online community, as a place to where information is (somewhat) accurate, reliable and trustworthy.

Where the information on MSE is useful people are encouraged to help and share with others. People contribute to forums on the basis they they can "give" today and "take" tommorow. Thats what make the forums healthy. This is what strentghtens the forums and makes them the generously spritited places they are.

The ebaying vultures are not strengthening the MSE community, they are weakening and damaging it. If the forums contain no useful information, what is the point of using them ? That's where this leads....

Kill the golden goose that lays the golden egg ...

burbs_2

anewman wrote:

People who buy to sell on Ebay to make money are tax evading scum bags who can't be bothered to get a proper job!

On a lighter note - noticed some Gameboys in Boots in Leeds centre. Also Ipod stuff reduced more and the NW-HD5 at £67

@Chipsdog I remember being near the photo counter and a woman was asking about an Xbox and it's price... Could have been you?!

People who buy to sell on Ebay are tax evading scum bags is possibly the funniest sweeping statement that i have heard in a while. People have a right to buy a product cheap and sell it on for a profit if they feel that way inclined. It is not up to you, or anyone else for that matter.

johnmcn

Thanks anewman and fifo for posting exactly what i was thinking..

Only recently registered but a long time lurker and have noticed people buying up bargains for the sole purpose of reselling on ebay.to me it goes against the whole point of this site..

Thanks to the OP i have managed to pick up a PS2,2 gameboy micros and DS's for christmas pressies for the kids and i only had to travel to two stores 100 miles apart ,i could've taken the PS2 and DS each store had left but that imho would be wrong and left them for some other parent wanting one for thier own kids.