'Feeling empathy for Gordon' blog discussion

Errata

I just hope that - as far as all the parties and their negotiations are concerned, the desire for power and for fullfilled egos does not take precedent over the desire to try to create a fair and stable UK for all of us.

Politicians putting the country before their own ambition ? That would be a first.

rickbonar

I thought the last Conservative administration pretty corrupt too. Bungs being taken for just about everything. And they had the same arrogant presumption to the right to govern that Labour (especially under Mr Brown) have now.

However when (new) Labour won the election in 1997 John Major showed dignity grace and humility and did proper and the right thing for the country by stating that he was going to resign as leader of the party but would remain as acting PM until the new administration had officially moved into office.

Note the contrast with the actions of B.I.G.O.T Brown today!

As Errata suggests in his last post here "politicians putting the country before their own ambition"

Not Mr Brown it seems.

Labour should have ditched Mr Brown some months ago... they may have actually won this election.
Peter Mandelson and company should press this point.

Gordon Brown has his place in history. The worst PM ever.

Premier_2

rickbonar wrote: »

...Labour should have ditched Mr Brown some months ago... they may have actually won this election.
...

Together with all the unelected a*** lickers that he brought in to support him when no one else would.

e.g. Mandelson, Sugar, etc.

All unelected representatives, just like our current PM is.

Crabman

Premier wrote: »

Together with all the unelected a*** lickers that he brought in to support him when no one else would.

e.g. Mandelson, Sugar, etc.

All unelected representatives, just like our current PM is.

Technically no PM is ever elected (aside from being elected by their local constituency). We only vote for our local candidates.

An elected MP's position as party leader (and thus Prime Minister) comes about as a result of a party decision.

rickbonar

worldwheeler wrote: »

This is the right phrasing, migration. The concerns of the people of the UK is the level of migration. We are a mere state within the Union, European union. The people arriving from the East are not the problem. The problem is the people who have allowed the level of influx to happen, namely our politicians. Though these new arrivals provide the perfect focus of anger and discord for the native masses who then ignore the disdain and ignorance the political elite treat them with.
Our political class do not answer straight questions, never mention let alone deal with the main issues and use skewed & twisted statistical figures to persuade the public that; they have made things better, you should be thankful, expect less, suffer more and stop whinging.
Funny how it took a pensioner to push home the question of EU immigration when I have never heard any professional, academic so called investigative reporter reply to the "we are introducing a points based system to stem the flow of Africans and Asians" .... "sorry minister, THAT is not the problem, it is EU migration that people are worried about". Maybe they fear being called names like bigot by the idiot politicians.

As for the economy how can stopping a NI tax increase take six billion OUT of the economy?

Reminds me of how the word racialist has morphed into the word racist.

Not sure what the difference is but I'm sure there is one.

Also Asians to us are Indians and Pakistanis yet in America an asian is a chinaman.

Paul_Herring

Crabman wrote: »

Premier wrote:

All unelected representatives, just like our current PM is.

Technically no PM is ever elected (aside from being elected by their local constituency). We only vote for our local candidates.

An elected MP's position as party leader (and thus Prime Minister) comes about as a result of a party decision.

They are, however, usually given a mandate during an election by the country at-large if their party comes away from it with a working majority. This is usually, colloquially, what's meant by 'elected' when describing a PM.

Paul_Herring

dizzie wrote: »

Nick Clegg scored a big credibility plus for me when he stuck to his word and said that he believed that the party with the most votes or seats should be given the first chance.

Sorry to bring this one back up (having done so earlier,) how credible does he seem at the moment, having refused to say yes to giving the party with the most seats and most votes a chance?

Or was it just the 'chance to offer a deal, which could be ignored or put aside, depending on what the other side said?'

This should have all been sorted by 8.30am Monday morning. It's still dragging on.

Errata

This is taking far too long. The government is now being run by the civil service - not something anyone voted for.