Off sick for 4 weeks boss insisting on visiting me at home.

Vader123

PaulusCliftus wrote: »

It's not even a policy, he does not have any policy's. It's something he quite likely googled. He is quite good at trying to be seen to be doing the right thing to cover his back.

With all due respect, I've worked for the guy for several years. I know he does not think employees have rights. He wont even employ young females in case they get pregnant.

If he had respect for employee's he would not of fraudulently sent out quotes in my name with my address on to make sure he could get more business by making out he was undercutting a rival. This is something I've only recently found out about though, and am still trying to decide what to do about it.

All the above is why I'm 100% certain he does not have my best interests at heart. And it will be nothing more than an exercise in bullying me into doing what he wants.

All would be a fair enough post if you posted this before.

This only become a issue when you are off sick.

What have you done before this to rectify it?

Anyway, I did not really intend for it to turn into a debate on if I'm doing the correct thing or not, simply if I could refuse this meeting if I felt that it was not in my best interests. And thanks for the helpful answers.

Of course you can refuse your employers input into your life.

However once you set down that path, the intervention that is "sick pay" and "employment" also gets refused (by them!).

You can'y bundle up the many years you have put up with issues at work as soon as you are off sick.

I predict a "can they do this?" post soon.

Vader

PaulusCliftus

Nevermind.

Weirdlittleman

I take the OP doesnt like being told the truth rather than what he wants to hear.

OP out of interest when do you think it would be acceptable for them to request such a period. What about in 6 months if you are still off or are they meant to just accept the sick note and pay you?

PaulusCliftus

Weirdlittleman wrote: »

I take the OP doesnt like being told the truth rather than what he wants to hear.

OP out of interest when do you think it would be acceptable for them to request such a period. What about in 6 months if you are still off or are they meant to just accept the sick note and pay you?

Well I was replying to vader that he obviously cannot read as I had posted what he said I had not posted before. Also I was asking for advice, not for people to 2nd guess my motives from what little information I've decided to share. I then edited as decided whats the point getting into an argument on a forum with someone who quite obviously is not worth my efforts.

And how do you know what I wanted to hear? All I wanted to hear was an answer to my question, not peoples views on a situation they know nothing about. Seriously, is this why some people use this site, to pass comment at other peoples lives when its neither helpful or relevant. They should get a hobby that perhaps does not involve a keyboard.

And I think it would be acceptable when they actually give a damn about my health and not in making my health any worse than it already is. Do you think someone who consistantly treats his employees like crap and uses them to fraudulently obtain business is worth getting ill over? They should accept my sick note for now, my doctor is after all a health professional, if they want to dispute it then they can get another doctor to give a 2nd opinion.

Seriously, I don't know why I feel the need to explain myself to you people.

WeakHeart

PaulusCliftus wrote: »

All I wanted to hear was an answer to my question, not peoples views on a situation they know nothing about.

Well, in post 3# you did ask whether people thought you would be being unreasonable in refusing a visit which invites broader comment and it did seem like you were inviting comments on some of the things that have happened so I can understand where Vader123 was coming from.

Whatever your boss is doing and whatever his motives it seems like the best thing you can do is focus on getting better and leaving the job asap. If you carry on working for someone that you don't trust it'll just get worse for you. Meantime keep notes and take advice so that you are better informed about your rights AND the rights of your boss. Good luck.

SueC_2

PaulusCliftus wrote: »

Can I tell him that I do not want to meet with him on Friday.

Can he insist that they can.

Am I being unreasonable considering work is a massive part of why I feel ill.

Okay then, to go back to your questions in the order you asked them:

1. Yes you can.

2. No he can't.

3. Not our place to judge.

But you should ask yourself what you are trying to achieve here?

If you want to continue with your employment, it is in your own best interests to keep channels of communication open with your employer.

If you don't want to continue with your employment it would perhaps be 'better' for you to cut to the chase and resign - your employer can go ahead and replace the 33% of his workforce that he is currently missing, and you can relieve yourself of the stress and mental pressure that your work is obviously causing you and concentrate instead on your health and recovery.

cally6008

If your boss does insist on meeting up with you, please do have a friend or family member with you. You do not have to go through this on your own. If need be, have a mobile phone recording the conversation.

WeakHeart

SueC wrote: »

But you should ask yourself what you are trying to achieve here?

Good advice. Only you know if you want (or need) to keep this job and your actions and reactions to your boss may differ depending.

PaulusCliftus

WeakHeart wrote: »

Well, in post 3# you did ask whether people thought you would be being unreasonable in refusing a visit which invites broader comment and it did seem like you were inviting comments on some of the things that have happened so I can understand where Vader123 was coming from.

Whatever your boss is doing and whatever his motives it seems like the best thing you can do is focus on getting better and leaving the job asap. If you carry on working for someone that you don't trust it'll just get worse for you. Meantime keep notes and take advice so that you are better informed about your rights AND the rights of your boss. Good luck.

SueC wrote: »

Okay then, to go back to your questions in the order you asked them:

1. Yes you can.

2. No he can't.

3. Not our place to judge.

But you should ask yourself what you are trying to achieve here?

If you want to continue with your employment, it is in your own best interests to keep channels of communication open with your employer.

If you don't want to continue with your employment it would perhaps be 'better' for you to cut to the chase and resign - your employer can go ahead and replace the 33% of his workforce that he is currently missing, and you can relieve yourself of the stress and mental pressure that your work is obviously causing you and concentrate instead on your health and recovery.

Ah fair enough everyone. Don't mean to sound unreasonable to people on here or like I'm being argumentative, just extremely stressed about the situation.

He is running the business into the ground anyway, so would probably just be best to agree to leave so long as its noted that its done for medical reasons and then I can atleast think "thankgod I got out" when the business does finally go under, and also with me not there he can't then claim it was down to me leaving him in the lurch.

Uncertain

SueC wrote: »

Okay then, to go back to your questions in the order you asked them:

1. Yes you can.

2. No he can't.

3. Not our place to judge.

But you should ask yourself what you are trying to achieve here?

If you want to continue with your employment, it is in your own best interests to keep channels of communication open with your employer.

If you don't want to continue with your employment it would perhaps be 'better' for you to cut to the chase and resign - your employer can go ahead and replace the 33% of his workforce that he is currently missing, and you can relieve yourself of the stress and mental pressure that your work is obviously causing you and concentrate instead on your health and recovery.

I agree except, possibly, the last paragraph.

Depending on how you feel the alternative is just to dig you heels in, slow the pace of everything down to a crawl, rely on your doctor's support that meetings would be bad for your health and wait for the employer to make the moves. From what you say he may ignore your legal rights, mess up the procedures and leave himself open to a claim. However, don't underestimate the stress that can be involved.

Also, if you just resign you may find it harder to claim benefits.

The normal (financial) advice is not to resign on health grounds, let the employer jump through the hoops. But only you know how you feel.