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gazfocus

BitterAndTwisted wrote: »

So, you requested that the missing cabinet was removed from the property because it was surplus to your requirements and when it wasn't you disposed of it without permission? I'd charge you full whack for replacing that item. Whatever the landlord supplies is your responsibility to look after, not chuck out in the rubbish if it doesn't suit. Very, very foolish of you indeed

I informed the LA, in writing, that if the cabinet wasn't removed within a month, it would be disposed of. Why should I be made to 'store' the landladies possessions in an unfurnished property?

Plus it's not like it was a small cabinet that could be 'hidden' in a different room.

lizzielondon

tricky ground i suppose about 'storing' stuff in an unfurnished property

however

YOU DID NOT HAVE THE RIGHT TO CHUCK OUT HER STUFF!

in the same way that if you left stuff in the property after you left she would not be allowed to dispose of your stuff!

gazfocus

lizzielondon wrote: »

in the same way that if you left stuff in the property after you left she would not be allowed to dispose of your stuff!

Isn't it something like a landlord has to give me sufficient time and notice to collect my stuff though, then they can legally dispose of it?

BitterAndTwisted

Perhaps they do but what has that got to do with you illegally disposing of someone else's property without permission?

gazfocus

BitterAndTwisted wrote: »

Perhaps they do but what has that got to do with you illegally disposing of someone else's property without permission?

I gave them fair warning and kept hold of the cabinet in question for a number of months before disposing of it. As I said, the property was rented as an unfurnished property and as such I shouldn't have to live around someone elses junk in my home.

G_M

There is no strict definition of 'furneished' or 'unfurnished'.

Basically a property comes with whatever it comes with whether that is nothing, carpets only, white goods, full furnishing or ... a cabinet!

You have a duty of care while you are in occupation, and a duty to return the property, and its contents whatever they are, at the end of the tenancy.

Jowo_2

gazfocus wrote: »

I gave them fair warning and kept hold of the cabinet in question for a number of months before disposing of it. As I said, the property was rented as an unfurnished property and as such I shouldn't have to live around someone elses junk in my home.

Here is the law on uncollected goods.
http://www.landlordzone.co.uk/uncollected_goods.htm

DVardysShadow

gazfocus wrote: »

I gave them fair warning and kept hold of the cabinet in question for a number of months before disposing of it. As I said, the property was rented as an unfurnished property and as such I shouldn't have to live around someone elses junk in my home.

I have some sympathy here. And as it was not inventoried, it does not seem to me that it forms part of the rental contract to return it. It looks to be more appropriately covered as abandoned goods belonging to a party outwith any contract relationship. And we do say here that the rental property is effectively exclusively the tenant's for the duration of the tenancy. So this is like dealing with property abandoned by a previous owner in the owner occupier sector. Possibly.

gazfocus

Jowo wrote: »

Here is the law on uncollected goods.
http://www.landlordzone.co.uk/uncollected_goods.htm

Very useful post and it does state the following:

A suggested procedure for legally disposing of uncollected tenant's goods:

• Make every effort to trace the tenant/s to their new address or contact them through any forwarding address you may have.

•If you are owed monies you must keep goods for 3 months before disposing of them. If you are not owed money a reasonable period, typically 28 days is acceptable before selling the goods.

• Write to the tenant by registered post or recorded delivery with a legal notice. This will notify them that the goods are available for collection and that they will be kept for up to three months.

• Make sure your notice clearly identifies you as the landlord and gives full contact details for yourself as landlord and include complete contact details.

• If the goods remain unclaimed after 3 months you can sell them to a buyer, who will receive good title to them. The original owner will therefore lose all rights to the goods.

• Once you have covered your expenses in this process and any rent arrears etc, any proceeds left over will belong to the original owner - your tenant, if they should turn up and claim within six years.

I know the above is in reference to landlords dealing with tenants possessions but not sure if it's fair for the same not to be true for a reversed situation.

terryw

gazfocus wrote: »

Very useful post and it does state the following:



I know the above is in reference to landlords dealing with tenants possessions but not sure if it's fair for the same not to be true for a reversed situation.

I really don't know but what's good for the goose .....etc.

So did you follow this procedure?