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  • jacobsdaduk
    jacobsdaduk Posts: 168 Forumite
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    edited 22 April 2010 at 2:33PM
    MrsE wrote: »
    All places where cars are allowed.

    They are only permitted to park on pavements in the few places its signposted as allowed.

    We all know cars park on pavements and we all know it's illegal but that doesn't detract from the fact that the person pushing the pram has damaged the vehicle or that people do park on pavements. You cannot justify damaging someone elses property because they have flouted the law; we don't offer and "eye for an eye" legal system is this country.
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  • the182guy
    the182guy Posts: 1,018 Forumite
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    I don't see how the pram owner could possibly justify forcing the pram through the gap obviously causing damage. They'd need a very good excuse like the road had been dugg up and there was no way to turn back and the car owner was not home. To say it's risking the childs life by crossing the street is extreme and is not likely to wash with a judge. If someone did happen to believe that crossing a street with a pram is endangering theirs or anyone elses life then I would urge that person to get a Physciatric evaluation with particular reference to paranoia.
  • jacobsdaduk
    jacobsdaduk Posts: 168 Forumite
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    the182guy wrote: »
    If someone did happen to believe that crossing a street with a pram is endangering theirs or anyone elses life then I would urge that person to get a Physciatric evaluation with particular reference to paranoia.

    :rotfl:

    I like that.
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  • Flearoy
    Flearoy Posts: 274 Forumite
    It is not right to expect a pedestrian to have to use the highway, rather than the pavement, because a vehicle has been parked obstructing the path. If this happened to my car, no way would I complain because I shouldn't have been parked there. That said, if I was the pram-pusher, I wouldn't whinge about a scratch on the pram, given the scratch on the car will cost the owner a fair bit to fix.

    The car owner should think him/herself lucky it wasn't my old mam pushing the pram - she'd have written the car off.
    Skip dipper and proud....
  • woody01
    woody01 Posts: 1,918 Forumite
    floralaura wrote: »
    There's a car, its parked on the pavement..blocking half the path.
    There's a Parent with a pram walking down the street where said car is parked.
    On the Parent trying to squeeze the pram past the car the two scrape together.
    There is a mark down the car and also on the pram frame.
    The car owner wants the pram owner to pay for damages to their car.
    The pram owner wants the car owner to pay for damages to their pram.
    Who is in the right to want damages paid?

    Tell the car owner to stick up his behind.
    I hate ignorant sods that park on the path.
  • the182guy wrote: »
    So is criminal damage.

    How is it criminal damage?
    Surely it's accidental damage?
    If I was walking on the pavement with a pram and thought there was enough room then realised there wasn't after I'd scratched the car then it would be an accident surely?
  • woody01
    woody01 Posts: 1,918 Forumite
    How is it criminal damage?
    Surely it's accidental damage?
    If I was walking on the pavement with a pram and thought there was enough room then realised there wasn't after I'd scratched the car then it would be an accident surely?
    we don't offer and "eye for an eye" legal system is this country

    I wish we did.
  • malah1de
    malah1de Posts: 12 Forumite
    It cannot be equitable that pedestrians are expected to walk in the road because a driver decides not to park properly. The route for the car driver is to claim damages for the tort of negligence. Pram pusher has, it could be argued, been forced into a narrow gap by the indolence/arrogance of the car driver. Pity the doctrine of "clean hands" is not applied to damages, but who knows? Perhaps the civil law will evolve. Certainly the drivers in such circumstances are pond life.
  • the182guy
    the182guy Posts: 1,018 Forumite
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    How is it criminal damage?
    Surely it's accidental damage?
    If I was walking on the pavement with a pram and thought there was enough room then realised there wasn't after I'd scratched the car then it would be an accident surely?

    Do you not think you could make that judgement before trying to force it through?
  • JQ.
    JQ. Posts: 1,919 Forumite
    Wow, what a strange thread. What a lot of squabbling.

    I think it's safe to say the vast majority agree that cars parked on the pavement is rude, arrogant, inconvenient and sellfish. However, it is not the responsibilty of the rest of us to be judge, jury and excecutioner to other peoples indiscretions. That's why we have police officers and traffic wardens. Where does it end?
    • If I find someone on double yellows I can smash a brake light
    • If I catch someone parking in a disabled space without a badge, I can smash their windscreen
    • If I catch someone shoplifting I can chop their hand off
    • etc etc etc
    As someone with 2 kids, both in a pram, I have been sorely tempted to do accidentally scratch such cars, but have resisted because to do so is to lower yourself to the level of the car owner. I actually think to do so would be far worse than what the car owner has done.
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