Technical definition of 'bulls' and 'bears'?

Really2

abaxas wrote: »

In terms of housing

Bulls - selfish individuals who only think about themselves
Bears - group oriented people who beleive in community

Oh yes, and we have fantasists on here also.

Turnbull2000

abaxas wrote: »

In terms of housing

Bulls - selfish individuals who only think about themselves
Bears - group oriented people who beleive in community

I'm bullish but would like prices to fall. So that's your definition ruined!

chucky

abaxas wrote: »

Bears - low IQ group oriented people who have made many financial mistakes and blame others for them who may also beleive in community

corrected it for you sunshine

abaxas

Dont think us nice people can win this argument :<

I'm changing my view to 'bull'. Does anyone know of any disabled people I can go and laugh at?

Really2

abaxas wrote: »

Dont think us nice people can win this argument :<

er I have not had a go at anyone but you have pointed out

abaxas wrote: »

selfish individuals who only think about themselves

Saying that does not make you a nice person does it? Not very community of you is it either?

chucky

abaxas wrote: »

Does anyone know of any disabled people I can go and laugh at?

why would you want to do that?!

disabled people should be integrated into society as much as possible and not made to be any different to any one else.

System

abaxas wrote: »

Dont think us nice people can win this argument :<

I'm changing my view to 'bull'. Does anyone know of any disabled people I can go and laugh at?

You've got issues that no amount of house price falls can solve, disturbed.

tomterm8

Really2 wrote: »

Bullish is thinking something is in a moving upward value trend.

Bearish is thinking it is in a moving down in value trend.
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There's an important part missing in these definitions.

A bull is someone who thinks something is moving in an upwards value trend, and is looking to buy the market.

A bear is someone who thinks something is moving in an downwards value trend, and is looking to sell or shortsell the market.

Everyone who hasn't got a horse in the race is pretty much irrelevant.

ninky_2

i actually think correctly applied it doesn't refer to individuals at all but markets.

therefore a bull market is a time of increased investor confidence. a bear market represents decreased confidence. a savvy individual does not stick to one position (hence is neither a 'bull' nor a 'bear') but is rather aware that the markets fluctuate. just as the sun does not always shine nor the rain always fall house prices neither always fall nor always rise but respond to fluctuations. some forecasts will be more accurate than others. the skill comes in reading the signs and responding correctly not in a closed minded position of prices will go up or prices will go down.

some people seem to think they can effect the markets simply by shouting their position more loudly or cherry picking certain news stories over others. perhaps if they were chancellor it might have an effect but on an internet forum not a chance. it's quite sad really.

Conrad

Bear and bull are not such useful terms.

In my mind when I talk about a perma-bear, I have in mind someone like this;

+ Fixed unchanging view that economic woe is just around the corner - always.
+ That the UK's commercial heart is wanning - always
+ That things were better yesteryear - always
+ That people around them are 'on a knife edge' / not realistic
+ That buying at the optimum time and making a killing is incredibly important to thier sense of self worth

................

The rest of us are in my view just more realistic and prgamatic, and would in general approach life on the back of the following;

+ That sure we all live with risk and sure we might lose everything tomorrow, but ho hum, we muddle through in the main
+ That the clock still ticks and the oak still grows despite the shrill shouts in the news
+ That the UK actualy outputs a lot into the world, from james Bond to H Potter, Elton John to Simon Cowell, nice wellies to high end audio gear
+ Buying a property at the optimum point is really not very important. Love life and happiness are what count, not whether you saved 30k on a property over a lifetime
+ That somehow the UK always muddles through and we dont get relegated to the third division - despite the pessimists always portending otherwise (remember the 80s - Japan would take all our business away)