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Did the Leadership debate change your mind?

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  • bo_drinker
    bo_drinker Posts: 3,924 Forumite
    No I will be sticking to UKIP.

    I am sick of the others although to be honest I think Clegg has been a ground breaker for the otherwise also ran Libs as they have been all my life. If hi policies were a bit different I may have been swayed.
    I came in to this world with nothing and I've still got most of it left. :rolleyes:
  • pingu2209
    pingu2209 Posts: 246 Forumite
    I was really annoid that they didn't debate all the issues regarding immigration. They kept talking about illegal immigrants but there is also a massive issue regarding people coming in from the EU. There are thousands and thousands of them. This is really affecting our country. I understand that BNP can't be highlighted but what about UKIP? They should also have been included.
  • Kohoutek
    Kohoutek Posts: 2,861 Forumite
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    pingu2209 wrote: »
    They kept talking about illegal immigrants but there is also a massive issue regarding people coming in from the EU. There are thousands and thousands of them. This is really affecting our country.

    We've incorporated EU laws into our legal system that give complete freedom of movement to any person living in an EU state to work and live in another EU state. In other words, we can't exclude someone from an EU country living and working in Britain without leaving the EU.
  • Emy1501
    Emy1501 Posts: 1,798 Forumite
    edited 16 April 2010 at 6:27PM
    There are three debates anyone using these debates to decide the way they vote will not decide till after the 3rd. Clegg did well but his party is going to be under scrutiny now. There was a Lib Dem MP on after the debates when she was asked now that the Lib Dems are the honest party could they now tell us where they were going to find the other 30b of cuts a year needed by 2015 she could not/would not answer so no real different to the other 2. You also find out that getting rid of trident is not till after 2015 etc.

    Clegg also got a free ride last night as the other 2 were too busy arguing between themselves. Now he is a threat they will not let him get away so easily next time. I suspect he may have peaked too soon. If he can keep it up though and continue like he did yesterday by the end of third debate I suspect there will be some who may change their opinion.
  • StevieJ
    StevieJ Posts: 20,174 Forumite
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    Kohoutek wrote: »
    We've incorporated EU laws into our legal system that give complete freedom of movement to any person living in an EU state to work and live in another EU state. In other words, we can't exclude someone from an EU country living and working in Britain without leaving the EU.

    So how come it was only the UK, Ireland and was it Denmark accepted the Polish people uncontrolled?
    'Just think for a moment what a prospect that is. A single market without barriers visible or invisible giving you direct and unhindered access to the purchasing power of over 300 million of the worlds wealthiest and most prosperous people' Margaret Thatcher
  • Kohoutek
    Kohoutek Posts: 2,861 Forumite
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    StevieJ wrote: »
    So how come it was only the UK, Ireland and was it Denmark accepted the Polish people uncontrolled?

    The UK, Ireland and Denmark made a political decision not to sign up to the transitional arrangements on freedom of movement in 2004, presumably because the leaders of those countries thought they had a cheap labour shortage at the time.
  • StevieJ
    StevieJ Posts: 20,174 Forumite
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    Kohoutek wrote: »
    The UK, Ireland and Denmark made a political decision not to sign up to the transitional arrangements on freedom of movement in 2004, presumably because the leaders of those countries thought they had a cheap labour shortage at the time.

    So we could have excluded some?
    'Just think for a moment what a prospect that is. A single market without barriers visible or invisible giving you direct and unhindered access to the purchasing power of over 300 million of the worlds wealthiest and most prosperous people' Margaret Thatcher
  • Kohoutek
    Kohoutek Posts: 2,861 Forumite
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    StevieJ wrote: »
    So we could have excluded some?

    We could have done at the time, yes, but it was only ever going to be a temporary measure. Germany and Lichtenstein are the only countries were the exception is still in force for Polish workers, it expires in 2011.

    We can't do anything about it now, except leave the EU.
  • Optimist
    Optimist Posts: 4,557 Forumite
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    pingu2209 wrote: »
    I was really annoid that they didn't debate all the issues regarding immigration. They kept talking about illegal immigrants but there is also a massive issue regarding people coming in from the EU. There are thousands and thousands of them. This is really affecting our country. I understand that BNP can't be highlighted but what about UKIP? They should also have been included.

    Wait unto Albania and Turkey join !
    "The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves, but wiser people so full of doubts."

    Bertrand Russell. British author, mathematician, & philosopher (1872 - 1970)
  • 97trophy
    97trophy Posts: 915 Forumite
    Why is Clegg in these debates? It a waste of time.
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