Do you think we have a right to unrestricted internet?

Widelats

I don't know how to add polls, and with this new digital economy thing that they are hurrying through parliment, i was wondering is there a petition i can sign that stops anyone from regulating my internet except for me.

Thanks.

robt_2

How would that work? Your ISP regulates your Internet connection as it is (whether it be content, speed, throttling, etc). Not really sure what you are asking?

You can't have 'direct' access to the 'Internet'.

mrtom21

I think the contention ratio between suppliers should be fair to consumers and I also think to support those in 'not spots' their speeds at peak times should not be affected. I do not however agree that someone should have the 'right' to download as much as they like at the top speed if it has an effect on other users and therefore do agree with a fair usage policy (provided the limit on the policy is fair).

macman

There's a big difference between the right to an 'unregulated internet' and the right to steal copyrighted material-it's the latter that the DEB was intended to combat.

markharding557

The problem they face is that their measures are so easy to circumvent:rotfl:

kwikbreaks

markharding557 wrote: »

The problem they face is that their measures are so easy to circumvent:rotfl:

Spot on.

All you need to do is buy or rent your DVDs and they can't touch you. (Unless the pr0n is classed as extreme such as somebody rogering a cartoon Tigger apparenly).

markharding557

kwikbreaks wrote: »

Spot on.

All you need to do is buy or rent your DVDs and they can't touch you. (Unless the pr0n is classed as extreme such as somebody rogering a cartoon Tigger apparenly).

They don't even have to do that,the use of ip blocking and the use of a proxy to obfuscate the ip address is not difficult.

System

If you really want unrestricted/uncontrolled access into the internet then there is nothing stopping you renting your own T1 connection and then paying one of the backbone suppliers to have a direct connection into their system at Telehouse or similar.

It may cost you around £50k per year but your wish would be granted.


Or did you want this sort of access for £15 per month?

Widelats

M, ok what i was really getting at is they say they are going to disconnect anyone who infringes copyright, but this is just the beginning, and i can see sites like youtube being blocked in the UK on these copyright laws, and many other sites, i don't think our govornment should be making choices for us telling us what we can and can't look at, in that respect i meant do you think freedom of internet is a right or up to the govornment.

Thanks guys, i was looking into the future here as i see where the digital bill is going.

williham

Widelats wrote: »

M, ok what i was really getting at is they say they are going to disconnect anyone who infringes copyright, but this is just the beginning, and i can see sites like youtube being blocked in the UK on these copyright laws, and many other sites, i don't think our govornment should be making choices for us telling us what we can and can't look at, in that respect i meant do you think freedom of internet is a right or up to the govornment.

Thanks guys, i was looking into the future here as i see where the digital bill is going.

Don't be rediculous. Hardly anyone will actually get caught but the ones that do will be downloading illegally. They also won't get cut off unless they ignore warning letters so it's not nearly as bad as you make it out to be.

This only affects people that download illegally, because unsurprisingly, it's illegal!

Youtube will never be blocked by the way, lol!

kwikbreaks

> they are going to disconnect anyone who infringes copyright,

This may indeed be the intention.

There is a vast gulf between an intention and an ability - especially so when it comes to something like copyright infringement over the internet.

I'm sure "they" also intend to endorse the licence of anybody speeding. Remember the government controls all the roads - does exceeding a speed limit automatically result in a fine and an endorsement? Unless "they" install the equivalent of the great firewall of China there is no way that the government is going to even monitor let alone control what happens on the internet.

As the apparently humourless poster above mentioned there are simple technical mechanisms around what seems to be an intent to harvest IP addresses from P2P swarms and force ISPs to issue cease and desist notices to their customers who get fingered. Anybody intent on infringing copyright is going to discover how pretty easily even without any technical abilities beyond using google.