Door to door charity fundraising...

doughnutmachine

Savvysatsu wrote: »

Yes it's disgusting when you have a roof over your head, live in a country where you always have change in your pocket and someone has the cheek to take 2 minutes of your time to ask you to help out a worthy cause. Especially when they're doing a job no one else would want to do, out in the cold for 8 hours straight.
How selfish they must be to disturb you while you make more money for corporate fat cats all day.

Edit, just saw this and frankly it's an appalling statement

I remember when I was a schoolkid in the 1980's we had Live aid etc and constant pics of starving kids in Africa. 30 years later the telly is still full of pictures of starving kids in Africa.

I don't mind giving money to people to help them on their feet, but giving money to a lot of charities is a waste imho....

fin7

bosseyed wrote: »

Teamsters? :rotfl: Jesus. I've just had a terrifying image of you all stood in a circle wih your tabards and clipboards all holding hands shouting 'GooooOOOOOO TEAMSTERS!" and then wittering off down the pavements to pester people on their lunch breaks.

"Well done Teamsters, that was an A+++ Teamy day today - Janine, thats 40 Teamster happy points for you, careful Richmond shes now challenging you for the 'TEAMSTER NIFTY GIFTY COLLEAGUE OF THE MONTH' clip on badge and velour tabard teamster sport set, GOOOOOOOOO TEAMSTERS"

Chuggers. Leave me alone. Also Jehovahs. I had a man at the door the other morning, smartly dressed, wife smartly dressed, smartly dressed child in tow asking me if I had thought about my happiness lately. I certainly had and it didn't involve Jesus or the Lord.

:rotfl:

We have a Kingdom Hall near by, I'm convinced half of them get to church early so they can have a bit of door knocking time, I've seen the ones that get the bus door knocking as they work their along the road!

shaun_from_Africa

Savvysatsu wrote: »

Yes it's disgusting when you have a roof over your head, live in a country where you always have change in your pocket and someone has the cheek to take 2 minutes of your time to ask you to help out a worthy cause.

Just out of curiosity, have you ever actually been to where the money from many of these worthy causes should be ending up?
Well I have. (19 years of working in Africa, mostly in countries with lots of very rich government officials, very rich church leaders and very poor people.)

I stopped giving to charities based outside of these countries after I saw where a lot of the money ends up.
When I was working in Nigeria, you could walk into many shops in the local town and buy Red Cross food items and bags of clothing that had been donated by various charities around the world.
The clothing items that didn't get sold was often ripped up and sold on as cleaning rags.

I donate to charities based in the countries that I work in, but only if I have seen them in action and think that the donations will actually get to help the people that they are intended for.

As for many of the church leaders!
http://www.blackchronicle.com/religion/pastors.html
http://www.times.co.sz/news/93361-pastor-justice-gets-e500-000-merc-gift.html
http://www.forbes.com/sites/mfonobongnsehe/2011/06/07/the-five-richest-pastors-in-nigeria/2/
etc
etc
etc

Dukesy

Savvysatsu wrote: »

Yes it's disgusting when you have a roof over your head, live in a country where you always have change in your pocket and someone has the cheek to take 2 minutes of your time to ask you to help out a worthy cause. Especially when they're doing a job no one else would want to do, out in the cold for 8 hours straight.
How selfish they must be to disturb you while you make more money for corporate fat cats all day.

Edit, just saw this and frankly it's an appalling statement

I had the Red Cross knock on my door the other day. I'd literally just walked through the door and was in one hell of a hurry to get changed out of my horsey manky clothes and drive into town to pick up my toddler from nursery, as was running late.

Now, I have no major objection to charities going door to door, as we're in such a rural area that it doesn't happen much, but despite explaining to the chap at the door that I really was in a hurry, he would not go away. I asked for a leaflet or something to peruse later, when I had the time, and he would not hand over anything. I said to him that I would therefore have a look at the Red Cross' website later, and he told me that if I wanted to donate, I should do it THERE AND THEN on the doorstep, as if I were to do it by going online, he "wouldn't get the recognition".

Now, does that sound like someone who is doing it out of the good of their heart, selflessly, and for the benefit of the charity only, or does that sound like a personal agenda?

Pollycat

Savvysatsu wrote: »

Yes it's disgusting when you have a roof over your head, live in a country where you always have change in your pocket and someone has the cheek to take 2 minutes of your time to ask you to help out a worthy cause. Especially when they're doing a job no one else would want to do, out in the cold for 8 hours straight.
How selfish they must be to disturb you while you make more money for corporate fat cats all day.

I said this 18 months ago which was the last post until you decided to dig it up:

Pollycat wrote: »

When you say 'being forward with people' you actually mean being pushy and persistant, don't you?

I'll stop complaining when people (not just chuggers but window salespeople etc too) stop knocking on my door uninvited.

OK, you may be disappointed after being told 'no' for the 20th time but that doesn't give you the right to take it out on the 21st person by being 'forward'.

If you knocked on my door, I'd say (politely) 'no thank you'.
If you didn't take that as my final answer but instead you continued to be 'forward', you would find my politeness disappearing pretty quickly.

I give to the charities of my choice monthly by direct debit.
I don't want somebody from some random charity I've never heard of knocking at my door asking for money.

It's my drive, my house, my front door and if you are polite, I will politely decline to donate for the reasons stated in my post above.

I will decide if a cause is 'worthy', not the person who is paid to knock on other people's doors.

They are often not just asking for 'the change out of your pocket' though, are they?
They are asking for you to sign up to a monthly direct debit.
After which, they will ring you up to pester you to give more and more money.

I don't make any money for 'corporate fat cats' or indeed make money for anyone at all.

bod1467

We give to Christian Aid by monthly standing order. Saturday morning my wife got a call from them as she was on her way out and said "No thanks, we already donate".

Later that day they called again while she was out and I answered. (They asked for her by name). I was far less polite!

To all you charity "sales" people out there ... if we already donate, DO NOT PESTER US MORE! If you do pester us, we'll just STOP DONATING and cancel any SO we have. So the more you pester, the less donations you'll get.

Blackbeard_of_Perranporth

Charities are commercial operations’ that live on peoples perception of poverty, yet have done very little to combat this during my lifetime. I remember collecting milk bottle foil in the 1960’s at the behest of a tv programme that would transform Africa and Sudan.

Fifty years on, it has not!

At college in the late 70’s, the second and third year apprentices went to Africa, in building a water supply for a village, and we were due to go there later in the year, to start on the school. It was cancelled after the students went in Easter as part of a co-operation scheme, to find said water supply and reservoir being built again, by another lot of students, with effectively the same plans. As for the equipment our college raised funds for, paid for pump etc, the other college did as well. Yet some banana official in the black car managed to look good in the local tailor’s offerings.

There is talk here of people not donating to these things, and I do not donate either. Having flown over the plains of Ethiopia in 1984, well afore some berk turned up, we dropped aid. It stood as much chance of reaching the needy as me winning the Grand National. You cannot drop it where the needy were entombed. Yet the strong and the rich took enough off the infirm in the ‘distribution ‘of such!

In 1981, we raised money for CIN. In 1982, and the fact this media organisation obliterates the airwaves with its sorrow, yet failed for years to mention a presenter earned more that night, than the checkout girl doing the field work did in a year.

I also remember a friend, who raised thousands over the years for another UK charity, was invited to a luncheon as their guest. He turned up to watch them debate their incomes and property portfolios, investments and pensions. When finished, he told them what he thought, and left, giving the collection instead to the local boys and girls group in the town. Their tins were removed, to gather dust.

I am now at a loss, since Skids brother fell in June 1982, the poppy, a solemn symbol has to compete with these misery organisations each year. But should the poppy become a commercial product. The London news reader was right in her choice not to have an emblem blazoned on her, yet there are some in society who scream if you do not conform. A kind of charitnista facists movement to conform to every chugger.

In town, I notice they target the young, not people of my ilk. Yet only a few weeks [!!!, on chugger tapped my door. Exaggerating my ignorance, he explained that he had some form of licence to knock on my door, up to 9 pm! He got short thrift at quarter past eight in the evening.

I used to think that charity, and come to that welfare, would lift people out of perceived poverty! In my life, from collecting bottle foils to todays people on an island with cardboard placards. It has filed to do so.

sistafromanothermista

:mad:
It annoys me also.
My father (in his 70's) donates monthly to the RSPCA. What do they do? call him every single week of the bloody month asking him to 'up' his donation.

It makes my blood boil. He's an OAP and could really do without the guilt trip. I have advised him to cancel the £5 to them for the very reason that they will not stop harrassing him!

Artemis_Fowl_2013

Social hours are until 9pm but we've had one come round at 9.30. Worse still that it was one we already donated to...

qetu1357

sistafromanothermista wrote: »

:mad:
It annoys me also.
My father (in his 70's) donates monthly to the RSPCA. What do they do? call him every single week of the bloody month asking him to 'up' his donation.

It makes my blood boil. He's an OAP and could really do without the guilt trip. I have advised him to cancel the £5 to them for the very reason that they will not stop harrassing him!

Or if he doesn't want them to call him either

a) tell them to go on a mind reading course or
b) tell them not to phone him then it will stop!