Door to door charity fundraising...

tesphen

To the chuggers on this board like tesphen

YOU may find what you are doing morally acceptable but some of us dont

I am appalled that people like to prey on people in the name of a charity, charities have to raise money but this is not the way to do it

By hounding people at any opportunity, by asking for personnel information then most of there money is then paid to the company YOU work for for along time to come.


By all means charities stand at doors with there tins these are volunteers but its unethical for a charity in my view for hound people for money and or employ a outside agency to get there staff to sign up on commission basis

I dont agree with it, its unethical and immoral way to get funds

Door to door fundraising raises millions of money for charity every year. Its hardly unethical. Its not like I'm pressuring someone to give money. I don't understand how I'm preying on people either. If they want to give, they give. Simple. If the practice is so terrible why would all the big name charities: Red Cross, Bernardos, Oxfam, RSPCA, etc associate themselves with it?

Yes they get paid. The marketing organising that employs the Chuggers are paid approximately (depending on the Company) between £69 and £120 per direct debit of £8 a month and over.
The charity justify this by saying that for every £1 spent on fundrising, they make £3. But on saying this if the chugger doesnt sign up a donor for the minimum donation, then they DO NOT get paid.

I have already said I am paid per hour, not on commision to discourage me from using hard sell tactics.

marleyboy wrote: »

That says it all to me, it kind of proves just what kind of character you really are, if anything I will be triple sure NEVER to donate anything to YOUR charity, all as a result of people like you. Best you dont ring my bell, I will just let the dog out without wasting my breath with a "NO!", whilst I have a good laugh with my neighbours as you hopscotch your backside down the road at triple speed.

All you have done here, is confirmed their is no point in even dialogue with chuggers, who inevitably gather together with their teamsters to knock on doors and ring bells, just for a laugh!

Not what I call a good job, but hey I am sure all cowboys enjoy their jobs this much.

If people don't want to donate then that's fine, as I said, we accept that. We understand everyone's personal circumstances are different, and choose not to judge people who are not in a position to give. However, if you are rude to us we'll certainly have a laugh at your expense.

Googlewhacker wrote: »

I might see what the minimum donation is and then offer 1p under it and see whether they refuse to take my money!

I would refuse.

Enfieldian wrote: »

Well, you really don't get it do you?

Have you been brainwashed by the Cobra Group or similar?

By the way, how do your job "skills" stack up in the real world?

I would never work for the Cobra Group or any similar organization. Mine has actually won awards for its ethics.

And by God, that was scary, unwashed hippy types lolling about in bedsits....... Not for the faint hearted

You sound like a really nice person. Certainly one to judge me.

Enfieldian

That's right, keep telling yourself that you are special.

It just means when you look at yourself in the mirror one day and realise what a failed waste of space you are, you will have that little bit further to fall.

Just think, in another five years you could work your way up to "Door to door energy salesman"

:rotfl::rotfl::rotfl:

dealer_wins

Charity or not I would advise anyone not to buy/sign-up for anything offered by cold callers on the doorstep or phone.

It avoids potential con-men, fraudsters, criminals and people mis-selling.

And 99.999% of people knocking at my door fall into one or more of these categories.

RobertoMoir

tesphen wrote: »

So there are the facts, just so you know them.

Here's a fact for you. A chugger once knocked me up collecting for a cancer charity, supposedly. I declined to contribute and got told in a very sneering manner: "You don't care about cancer then, just wait until it affects your family and see if you change your mind".

Both my parents died of cancer. So how about you tell me how that is supposed to make me feel about having anything to do with any cold caller or town centre tin rattler from charity in the future?

I'm sure there are some wonderful chuggers out there, real salts of the earth and all... but like any group you're let down by the bad apples, sorry.

And please don't tell us to f off because it won't discourage us, we'll just be stood at the bottom of the road having a good laugh about the ignorant git we've just had at the door.

Funny, I'll be in my house laughing about the ignorant git who just knocked on my door and I'll be the one who's in the warm. Oh, and I've never told anyone to "f off" my doorstep unless they've declined a couple of polite invitations to leave first.

NeverInDebt

You missed the bit about paying companies milions too out of donations people pay, many people believe their money they donate is going to charities minus add min costs etc not some greedy company and not to someone who preys on people by haraasing them on the high street

So yes its unethical no matter what spin you put on this

tesphen wrote: »

Door to door fundraising raises millions of money for charity every year. Its hardly unethical. Its not like I'm pressuring someone to give money. I don't understand how I'm preying on people either. If they want to give, they give. Simple. If the practice is so terrible why would all the big name charities: Red Cross, Bernardos, Oxfam, RSPCA, etc associate themselves with it?

tesphen wrote: »

I love having a laugh with my teamsters at ignorant idiots like yourself after I ring your doorbell.

I am sure people who may donate now or sme time in the future I am sure they would not like to be prefered as "ignorant idiots". This goes to show your contempt

NeverInDebt

I dont want to listen I want to be left alone at home without being pestered, same goes with shopping or wlaking down the high street

You just dont get it do you?

Get a real job and stop leaching off honest people who work damn hard and expect what little money they get and give freely to all go to charity not some leaching company. The charities who employ thses companies shame on them. I hope they never give any of my money as I dont want some leach/loser to get any of it

tesphen wrote: »

Sorry, we have a response for that. If you really don't want to donate or listen, just wait until we explain that we're here on behalf of a charity, we get to that immediately, it will appear at the start of any chugger's pitch and shouldn't take him or her about 5 seconds to get to. Then say politely and firmly that you're not interested. Once the chugger knows that you know they're there on behalf of a charity and that you're not interested they should leave. If they don't then be as rude as you like because they're doing their job wrong.

CharlieBilly

If chuggers come to my door and I see them coming I just avoid going to the door
If they are in the high street and you can spot them 1/2 a mile away I walk the over side. If they come them I smile and ignore them. Same goes in the shops I will never give my details to them and nor should anyone you dont know who they are anyone can print fake ID

marleyboy

Originally Posted by tesphen
I love having a laugh with my teamsters at ignorant idiots like yourself after I ring your doorbell.

If this particular chugger ever DARES tread his feet near my door, I wont waste my breath saying "No!", he has already made himself perfectly clear as to what type of character he and his teamsters are, no matter how he tries to butter himself back up, I will simply let my dog deal with him, whilst laughing and pointing at him with my teamster neighbours.

He has already tarred any door to door chuggers who knock at my door with his own brush, I only hope his boss reads this thread, to establish just how good a reputation he has given to their cause.

If that is being an ignorant idiot, better that than being a moronic pish taking scrounger.

Payless_2

tesphen wrote: »

I would refuse.

If you aren't on commission why would you refuse a donation of £7.99 a month? Surely that donation is much better for your beloved charity than nothing.

fantasia322

tesphen wrote: »

Door to door fundraising raises millions of money for charity every year. Its hardly unethical. Its not like I'm pressuring someone to give money. I don't understand how I'm preying on people either. If they want to give, they give. Simple. If the practice is so terrible why would all the big name charities: Red Cross, Bernardos, Oxfam, RSPCA, etc associate themselves with it?

I have already said I am paid per hour, not on commision to discourage me from using hard sell tactics.



If people don't want to donate then that's fine, as I said, we accept that. We understand everyone's personal circumstances are different, and choose not to judge people who are not in a position to give. However, if you are rude to us we'll certainly have a laugh at your expense.



I would refuse.



I would never work for the Cobra Group or any similar organization. Mine has actually won awards for its ethics.

You sound like a really nice person. Certainly one to judge me.

Of course you'd refuse, because you WOULD Not be paid for accepting it. Therefore it is commission in a way.