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doddsy · 4 October 2006 at 1:23PM

Kelinik wrote:

OK went shopping and spent ages looking at gravy (as you do!:D ) and have ditched instant in favour of gravy powder. The thing is this still contains MSG so is there anything better that I'm missing?

Also I've found out (although it seems obvious now!) that my Paxo stuffing contains the hydrogented (sp?) veg oils which I'm gutted by as a roast just isn't a roast in this house without sage and onion Paxo! Any suggestions?

Kellinik, I make my own gravy, never buy powder, granules etc etc.

Fat from the pan, salt, flour and vegetable water, really yummy!

doddsy

thriftlady_2 · 4 October 2006 at 2:30PM

Kelinik wrote:

Also I've found out (although it seems obvious now!) that my Paxo stuffing contains the hydrogented (sp?) veg oils which I'm gutted by as a roast just isn't a roast in this house without sage and onion Paxo! Any suggestions?

Mix breadcrumbs, onion, sage, salt and pepper, any other seasoning you like (I like mace) plus a beaten egg.

Kelinik · 4 October 2006 at 6:08PM

Thanks for the replies. Tbh I was looking for a gravy recipe that didn't need fat as alot of the meals we have gravy with don't have roasted meat. I've always used the veg water to make instant anyway as I don't have a steamer and don't want to pour the veggie goodness down the drain, but I'm guessing just this and flour would be pretty awful so would adding just a kallo cube to this work?

Thriftlady could I be a right pain and ask for rough quantities for the stuffing please? Never quite sure about judging it myself the first time I make something new.

recovering_spendaholic · 4 October 2006 at 6:13PM

Kelinik wrote:

Thanks for the replies. Tbh I was looking for a gravy recipe that didn't need fat as alot of the meals we have gravy with don't have roasted meat. I've always used the veg water to make instant anyway as I don't have a steamer and don't want to pour the veggie goodness down the drain, but I'm guessing just this and flour would be pretty awful so would adding just a kallo cube to this work?

Thriftlady could I be a right pain and ask for rough quantities for the stuffing please? Never quite sure about judging it myself the first time I make something new.

If I am trying to be extra low fat I sometimes don't add fat - I just mix the flour with some cold water to make a sort of runny paste and then whisk in the hot stock (Kallo and comptons) and it is nice! You could make the kallo stock with the veg water and that would be even tastier. It is important that you mix the flour with cold water first though or it goes all lumpy, and you have tobring it back to thte boil in the pan and simmer it for a bit to make sure it doesn't taste floury.

Thriftlady - I would love the measurements for the HM stuffing too please!! I have tried making it by guesswork but TBH it has always tasted well, a bit bready..

Horasio · 6 October 2006 at 4:31PM

I am worried it could have GM sources too.

Is the E471 and E472 in bread, ice cream etc bad for you?

lynzpower · 9 November 2006 at 12:05PM

just to add

Tescos own veg stock cubes have hydrogenated fats in- I chose Kallo instead despite the price issue ( sliglhy more expensive )

theres another good reason to avoid using palm oil

Demand for palm oil is rising and is expected to climb further, particularly for use in biodiesel. Biodiesel is promoted as a form of renewable energy that greatly reduces net emissions of carbon dioxide into the atmosphere, and therefore its use is being touted as a way to decrease the impact of the greenhouse effect and also the possibility of peak oil.

However, there is increasing concern from environmental and other NGOs about the social and environmental impacts of the palm oil industry. It is said that rainforests are being cleared to make room for the plantations, thus reducing the habitat for some threatened species, such as the orangutan (on Borneo and Sumatra). The plantations are often run by agribusiness, and locals in places such as West Papua and Kalimantan are missing out on jobs to migrant workers. However most of the rainforest is actually cleared for tropical wood production, sometimes illegal. There is far more forest cleared that ever necessary for palm oil production.

Orangutan experts around the world have unified to recognise that continued development of the palm oil sector, if done unsustainably, is the single greatest threat to the future of orangutans in the wild. The best professional estimates state that if the industry is not regulated then within 12 years we may witness the disappearance of orangutans from the wild. Other species that are critically threatened by disappearance of the forests include the Sumatran tiger and rhinoceros.

From wiki http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palm_oil

Kelinik · 9 November 2006 at 12:11PM

I've switched to Kallo organic cubes now but am finding them a bit flavourless if I'm honest?

lynzpower · 9 November 2006 at 12:49PM

For a soup I use 3 in a pint and a half of stock. I like the flavours strong though. I think well thats 30p for stock, and 50p for veg = 6 potions soup, not bad considering.
I thought the kallo low salt ones are a biut stronger than the normal kallo veg ones IYSWIM i got those in waitrose.

Trow · 9 November 2006 at 1:12PM

andyrules wrote:

I'm glad I'm not the only one who reads the gravy labels. <snip>But I've just read it again and it's got mse in it and also something called bonestock!

:eek:

Poor Martin!