Does anything ever come down?

Graham_Devon

It's not just your town, it's the whole of the UK including villages.

I know plenty of them. But know one who has 3 houses. Shes 19. She cannot afford 3 houses. But basically she has 4 kids. Shes officially classed as single. 2 of the fathers live in the same council house (1 claiming, the other paying the claimer I presume). She also lives there when she feels like it. The other father has a flat down the road from her 'usual' place. This is hers, as in her own place, owns outright as it was given to her by her brother (who worked) and passed away.

So why she can continue to live in the council house when she rents this one that she owns outright to one of the fathers is beyond me. I take it the flat hasn't enough bedrooms for all her little brats. She's even got a mobility car. Shes 19 !!!!!!! if she lost some weight she may be able to walk proper like the rest of us! She didnt drive before she got this mobility car, so she got driving lessons paid for her as she lives 'rural' (in an estate with about 1000 houses!). I know the state paid for her driving lessons, dad knows the instructor. When he found out the state was paying for her, he dropped her. Wasn't having anything to do with her.

It's also beyond me as to how she even fell pregnant in the first place. Enough to make you winse at the thought! They all seem to like her though. Real rough!

lazy&indebt

This makes me feel sick!!! And to pay for all these spongers - you and I have been told we will have to wait another 5 years to retire than originally!! it's just sick and I hate it.
My father is moving to S.Africa next year, he says if you live there and don't work or have any money...you don't eat. It's as simple as that!!

Graham_Devon

thats a bit harsh! However, shouldn't have a brand new vauxhall meriva every 2 years. Or a house if she already has one which she rents out. Or kids!

I know her personally from school and because she lived in the same village from me and she still says hi, shes nice enough like that, but good god I could slap her everytime I see her! You can see her LCD TV through the window from the main road as its pretty much in her window! Sky dish obviously!

Hereward

Whilst not exactly falling in price, food and clothing costs have remained fairly static over the last 10 years (and if you belive the hype from the supermakets, the prices are currently falling!)

Pobby

Graham_Devon wrote:

thats a bit harsh! However, shouldn't have a brand new vauxhall meriva every 2 years. Or a house if she already has one which she rents out. Or kids!

I know her personally from school and because she lived in the same village from me and she still says hi, shes nice enough like that, but good god I could slap her everytime I see her! You can see her LCD TV through the window from the main road as its pretty much in her window! Sky dish obviously!

I run a stressful business with income up and down.Just been having treatment for anxiety and when I read posts like this,I wonder if it is worth all the bother.I know someone with 2 kids,can`t be bothered to work,drinks,smokes,all the usual I have no idea how this is allowed to happen.My wife was off work for 3 years ,we didn`t apply for benefits{more fool us}.When she wanted to return to work we received virtually no help.Nu Labour

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Graham_Devon

To the above poster, your pretty lucky then that you didnt have an income tax bill.

When I was out of employment for 3 months, I lived off my own money which I had saved and also with the help of mum and dad (free rent basically and food). So just paid my general bills and kept my car going.

Once I started work again, they saw I hadn't paid income tax or NI for 3 months. Therefore, worked out the average I had been paying for 5 years and used that to estimate my bill.

I complained that I didnt take anything from the government, therefore can I please be let off. I could prove I had no income and was saying to them they are free to look at my financial accounts and come search me for money. They will see I had moved my savings over to my current account to pay while I was out of work. They said no and I had to pay a bill of £435. Because I was complaining, I went over a month of not paying and got hit with a £45 surcharge.

All because I didnt register on the dole. I didnt see any reason to. I knew I had another contract starting in the next 3 months, I knew I could live on my own money which I had earnt, so took a 3 month break.

The bill came in about 8 months after I started work again. Couldn't believe it, but had to pay it by law. It taught me a lesson! If I'm ever out of work agai, I'll be down that dole office so that the government pays my NI straight away!

I had to also pay income tax because they didnt believe, even though they wouldnt even look, that I could live for 3 months on my own.

lazy&indebt

Graham_Devon that is absolutely disgusting!

How can the government harp on to us about saving for emergencies, then when yuo do have an emergency, they don't believe you had the cash to keep you going and end up screwing you over anyway!!!
What's even more laughable is you spend your entire working life being treated this way, being screwed over so that the no hopers can have sky television and afford to p1ss all their cash up the wall.
And to top it off - after you've slaved away and paid stupid amounts of cash to the government, saved and worked really hard to buy a house to live in and to act as an asset, then when you die and want to leave that house (that you've worked so hard to pay for your whole life) to your children...they get taxed on that too!!!!!!!
I hate britain and this winds me up so much every single time I think about it

Pobby

lazy&indebt wrote:

Graham_Devon that is absolutely disgusting!

How can the government harp on to us about saving for emergencies, then when yuo do have an emergency, they don't believe you had the cash to keep you going and end up screwing you over anyway!!!
What's even more laughable is you spend your entire working life being treated this way, being screwed over so that the no hopers can have sky television and afford to p1ss all their cash up the wall.
And to top it off - after you've slaved away and paid stupid amounts of cash to the government, saved and worked really hard to buy a house to live in and to act as an asset, then when you die and want to leave that house (that you've worked so hard to pay for your whole life) to your children...they get taxed on that too!!!!!!!
I hate britain and this winds me up so much every single time I think about it

Couldn`t agree more!Having slaved away,self employed for much of it,stress causing depression and anxiety,I really feel liking giving up and going abroad.This goverment,imho,are destroying the hard working people of this country to favour an under class.I am tired of it all.Tried to do the right thing by saving,Mrs.Pobby and I have 10`s and 10`s of thousands in pension funds which will in the end give us a pathetic amount.When you look at the amount of tax most people pay through their lives and at the end of it are given next to nothing as a pension.

You young folks have little or no chance in buying your own homes which saddens me deeply.Is it any wonder that teen girls become pregnant and are then given all the benefits of being so.I am ashamed of the country I live in!

sarahs999

Blimey, it's all getting a bit heated in here.

I'd just like to say that clothes are much cheaper now. You can even get a pretty smart outfit from any of the main supermarkets now for heaps less than you used to pay.

So there.

S

lazy&indebt

Pobby wrote:

Couldn`t agree more!Having slaved away,self employed for much of it,stress causing depression and anxiety,I really feel liking giving up and going abroad.This goverment,imho,are destroying the hard working people of this country to favour an under class.I am tired of it all.Tried to do the right thing by saving,Mrs.Pobby and I have 10`s and 10`s of thousands in pension funds which will in the end give us a pathetic amount.When you look at the amount of tax most people pay through their lives and at the end of it are given next to nothing as a pension.

You young folks have little or no chance in buying your own homes which saddens me deeply.Is it any wonder that teen girls become pregnant and are then given all the benefits of being so.I am ashamed of the country I live in!

Oh aye, I am 22 and I think I earn a decent salary for my age but there is no way I could afford a property by myself! Unless I had about a 50% deposit of course!
Have you heard the latest - the government taking the 'charity cash' from the national lottery fund to put into the NHS? This cash was meant for charities - do we not give them enough money already to fuel the NHS?
And all this war on iraq nonsense with the government trying to tell us they are trying to help the people of Iraq - that's all very well and good but why don't they try helping the people of Britain first!!! How much have they spent on this war exactly? How much of the tax payers money goes to keeping the royal family?
I sometimes consider quitting work and going on the dole, just to try and claim back some of the tax I've paid!
Pobby, I wish every citizen in the uk was like you and your wife. I wish young girls could find more to aspire to than simply getting a council house, I wish people who earned stupid amounts of money (footballers for example) had to pay stupidly high rates of tax, I wish life meant life when people go to prison, I wish prisons were prisons and not holiday camps, I could go on...