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  • BOB_A_H
    BOB_A_H Posts: 180 Forumite
    As we have now passed the end of the tax year, then you need to send in your P60 from both the job centre and your old job to get your tax back, if it hasn't been refunded by the job centre.

    We are now coming up to a busy time for HMRC, as everyone who is due a refund will be doing the same thing. You won't get your P60U for a few weeks yet either.

    I was told that if you are on jobseekers, then it is automaticaly paid to you after the tax year ends.
  • BOB_A_H wrote: »
    What gives anybody the right to hold on to MY money?
    The law.

    HMRC (or the DWP if they're issuing the refund) are not obliged to issue a repayment until they have evidence that this repayment is correct. The DWP obviously did not have enough information about your total income for the year to enable them to issue a repayment, hence the requirement for you to provide this information to HMRC to obtain a repayment.

    Legally, when a tax year ends, HMRC has until January 31st the following year to repay any money owed to you. If it is still not repaid at that time, then interest will be added to it.

    How would you feel if you ended a tax year underpaid, and HMRC phoned you on April 7th to demand it back straight away, then again 9 days after that to point out that ten days delay was ridiculous?
  • BOB_A_H
    BOB_A_H Posts: 180 Forumite
    The law.

    HMRC (or the DWP if they're issuing the refund) are not obliged to issue a repayment until they have evidence that this repayment is correct. The DWP obviously did not have enough information about your total income for the year to enable them to issue a repayment, hence the requirement for you to provide this information to HMRC to obtain a repayment.

    Legally, when a tax year ends, HMRC has until January 31st the following year to repay any money owed to you. If it is still not repaid at that time, then interest will be added to it.

    How would you feel if you ended a tax year underpaid, and HMRC phoned you on April 7th to demand it back straight away, then again 9 days after that to point out that ten days delay was ridiculous?

    Oh come on, you are surely having a laugh with this analogy!

    How can you realistically make comparisons between an individual on JSA with no savings, and on the verge of home reposession, with a huge government department? They have resources, I clearly do not.
    £800 -900 is a drop in the ocean to what HMRC take in, but a kings ransom to me.

    You also say they might not have the information required, but I have done everything by the book. Made redundant in September, the relevant forms went to the relevant people. Signed on, tax year ends.

    I could work out what rebate im due, why cant people who do it for a living not? It is a thirty second calculation.
  • TM1976
    TM1976 Posts: 717 Forumite
    I'm not sure what happens with JSA but in a job when you pass your P45 to your new employer you gradually get the adjustment through your future payments - not a one off payment.

    Are you sure you haven't already received this (bit by bit since September). I know this isn't what you want but if this is the case may as well find out now as spend ages chasing the tax office for something you won't get.
  • suso
    suso Posts: 548 Forumite
    @bigmacman

    What did you do with P45 from your job?

    If you were getting approx 630 after tax amonth and having 100 tax deducted you weren't on a standard code (it sounds like your code has a restriction in it for some reason. If that was the case then the job centre won't refund as they don't have all the necessary information.
    He's not an accountant - he's a charlatan
  • BOB_A_H wrote: »
    Oh come on, you are surely having a laugh with this analogy!

    How can you realistically make comparisons between an individual on JSA with no savings, and on the verge of home reposession, with a huge government department? They have resources, I clearly do not.
    £800 -900 is a drop in the ocean to what HMRC take in, but a kings ransom to me.
    Just because HMRC takes in plenty of money does not entitle you to get some of it before your entitlement has been established and verified. Money, I hasten to add, that is collected to fund the running of the country.

    Never mind due process, Bob wants cash!
  • trevormax
    trevormax Posts: 947 Forumite
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    BOB_A_H wrote: »
    Oh come on, you are surely having a laugh with this analogy!

    How can you realistically make comparisons between an individual on JSA with no savings, and on the verge of home reposession, with a huge government department? They have resources, I clearly do not.
    £800 -900 is a drop in the ocean to what HMRC take in, but a kings ransom to me.

    You also say they might not have the information required, but I have done everything by the book. Made redundant in September, the relevant forms went to the relevant people. Signed on, tax year ends.

    I could work out what rebate im due, why cant people who do it for a living not? It is a thirty second calculation.

    It is a good analogy.

    There are a few things to consider.

    You say you did everything by the book. This doesn't mean your ex-employer/s have. HMRC may be waiting on something to be sent in by them. They may be waiting for something from you even. How do you know you have done everything required to help them with the calculation?

    Also when you consider that there are millions of tax payers, that 30 second calculation (which takes a lot longer than 30 seconds I can tell you) adds up quickly. HMRC dont automatically check everyones records and if you sent a letter, it will take some time to go through the post system and land on someones desk.

    HMRC need to check all sources of income, check your tax code was correct, carry out a calculation, enter notes on your file, issue the repayment, send the stuff to a quality checker (in some cases) to check it is all done correctly and sign off on the calculation and THEN issue the repayment.

    This is a very busy time for HMRC. You are not the only person trying to get a tax rebate. There are probably millions of letters making their way to HMRC's offices as we speak.

    HMRC used to have a limit of 28 days for these types of things, although that was removed a while ago I think. Give it a bit of time.
  • BOB_A_H
    BOB_A_H Posts: 180 Forumite
    TM1976 wrote: »
    I'm not sure what happens with JSA but in a job when you pass your P45 to your new employer you gradually get the adjustment through your future payments - not a one off payment.

    Are you sure you haven't already received this (bit by bit since September). I know this isn't what you want but if this is the case may as well find out now as spend ages chasing the tax office for something you won't get.

    I apologise if I did not make myself clear in earlier posts. I have been out of work since the end of September, therefore no wage to repay me bit by bit.
  • BOB_A_H
    BOB_A_H Posts: 180 Forumite
    Just because HMRC takes in plenty of money does not entitle you to get some of it before your entitlement has been established and verified. Money, I hasten to add, that is collected to fund the running of the country.

    Never mind due process, Bob wants cash!



    Yes Bob wants cash! Bob is on the verge of losing his home. Show a bit of humanity for pity sake.

    As I said earlier, it is a 30 second calculation.
  • nunnygirl
    nunnygirl Posts: 2,206 Forumite
    Bob, was on JSA this time last year and I had to go to the tax office and claim my tax back. Took me almost 6 months but a previous job has messed my p45s about by not putting the right figures in

    Please be patient, if you are entitled to anything you will get it back
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