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Bitsy_Beans

ani_26 wrote: »

I must admit, today i wasn't going to post on this thread again. Why? Because you are all brainwashed in one way or another. Remember, this is the way I see it. I feel because of my ' different ' way of thinking, or maybe speaking, i will fall into the trap of being banned from the site, as i express my own opinions. So be it. But remember i'm an arian and i share my birthday with two historical nutters, so although i'm open to contemplate what you are saying, i won't change my view. Which is maybe why i've read firewalkers diary in the first place. All my views are my own, and i base my views on a vast variety of personal experience, things i see in the ' real world ', people i meet in the ' real world', ( who are 1000's), from all walks of life.

I've? had a quick scan through the link, which frankly, is enough for me. Its all very well for people to write endlessly on various topics, its the doing, which is important. As for children teaching themselves? Ok, lets let a 5 year old teach themself. Surely you can see how ridiculous this is? I'm a great one for interaction with others. This is what makes the world go round. Human contact, even though i don't practise what i preach on that one, at the moment. Not staring at a computer screen, learning endless theologies or whatever. The importance of play and physical activity at school, sports, competetiveness, these things can't be learned by using a computer.

As for old school education.How many times have you been a shop, bought a few items, the till has broken down, or whatever, the shop assistant struggles for 15 mins to add up the cost of your purchases, which you had told them 15 mins previously. How did you know that, they ask? Because i did it in my head. They look at you blankly, how do you do that.Because when i went to school, a large proportion of mathematics was administered precisely in this manner. With the aid of a slide rule, and logarithms :mad:



Maybe this affects the way i still view everything now,as i come from the ark and have a very traditional way of thinking. Of course, i'm not completely blinkered, and open to suggestions, but i realise there are more and more people like me, who are starting to say, enough. They are just too frightened to say it.


As for computers replacing real people. There are many ways you could interpret this statement. My main interpretaion of what i stated was, yes, i'm learning the hard way, what its like to be on the receiving end of computers and technology replacing real people, at work.

Maybe i take things a little too seriously at times, and need to ' lighten up ' , but i like nothing better than a good debate, if only to open a can of worms. Does this mean i have an argumentative nature? I just like debates.

If firewalker does not want me to contribute on this thread anymore, then i am happy to leave. As i have stated many times, i am eccentric, and i take some getting used to, and there are many who will never be bothered.

But children DO teach themselves provided they are given the right tools for it. The whole entire basis of the EYFS agenda (basically curriculum in it's losest sense for the under 5's) is that children learn best through play, not sitting behind a desk learning by rote. Sure some kids will do well as they are always exceptions to every rule but for the most part allowing kids to explore, discover with perhaps a bit of adult led conversation kids can learn loads.

And I don't consider myself brainwashed I have my own opinion just like you but mine happens to be different to yours. But you shouldn't feel you have to leave, I don't agree with everything on MSE, indeed most posted on DT board leaves me with chills and a disappointment in the human race so I don't go there much now

As far as Autism goes I think we ALL have traits and are on the spectrum in some areas however what separates us neuro typical from the non-neuro typical aspies and ASD peeps is the triad of impairments. Social interaction isn't just about not understanding the non verbal cues (something quite hard for someone who finds looking at the face quite uncomfortable/no eye contact) but also they just don't see the point. When I look at my traits and my H's traits is clear as day why my DS is on the spectrum :rotfl:

Triciaxx

Memory_Girl wrote: »

Children need and deserve a GREAT leaning experience to give them all the skills needed to move into the future (whatever that will look like). That means choosing the best source from them to be taught by in any particular area - if the choice is between an excellent on-line resource and a poor teacher, on-line wins and vice-versa.

http://www.ted.com/talks/lang/eng/sugata_mitra_the_child_driven_education.html


I'm sure there is a PHD in there somewhere :rotfl:

I've passed that link on to every contact in education I an think of - including DH, who has passed it on to contacts in other countries as well as in the UK.

I've thought of another 'insight' into this. Some children (and adults) find personal interaction difficult. Might they also benefit from computer based learning?

DH immediately said "I'm sure there is a PHD in there somewhere." :rotfl::rotfl::rotfl:

Lara44

Dear All

I saw the TED talk a while back, what a totally amazing man with some brilliant projects. My research tangentially has touched on this topic (as I was thinking about apprenticeship and other forms of 'informal' learning). There's a wonderful lady called Jean Lave who has critiqued the whole idea of 'formal' versus 'informal' learning. She sees learning as happening in all social worlds, not just school. I'm wary of the political implications of saying some one is un, or undereducated or 'stupid' because they can't do mental arithmetic?? However of course like everything our kids school experiences could be improved. How to do that is the big question. Also I am not brainwashed, I have a very open brain!!

thriftyscotslass

Just watched the TED talk - inspirational :T.

Hmmn, I wonder where we have another SOLE (self organising learning environment) going on....

Memory_Girl

thriftyscotslass wrote: »

Just watched the TED talk - inspirational :T.

Hmmn, I wonder where we have another SOLE (self organising learning environment) going on....

Nothing new under the sun - eh thrifty? :whistle:

:rotfl: MG

Butti

I listened to a rather terrifying piece on Radio 4 this afternoon about transfats - basically about how they change the structure of the brain. Made me think maybe I should have an indian takeaway once every 6 months rather than once a month!


B

Memory_Girl

Butti wrote: »

I listened to a rather terrifying piece on Radio 4 this afternoon about transfats - basically about how they change the structure of the brain. Made me think maybe I should have an indian takeaway once every 6 months rather than once a month!


B

Scary stuff Butti - maybe the next series of recipes we do should be "Healthy Indian cooking for people at home, using a store cupboard and spending as little as possible" - although the title could do with a little work I think. :rotfl:

Indian food can actually be pretty healthy - if you don't rely on the ghee and fats used in restaurant food (lots of fat, salt and sugar to improve flavour).

For instance to get the same "mouth feel" as an oil-based sauce I use boiled and liquidised onions - don't laugh its true . The you use the spices and tomato and yoghurt to make up the sauce as usual.

A trip from an Indian friend who wanted to raise her kids healthier - she realises there is a huge problem with diabetes in her cultural group here in the UK.

MG

MrsMoo2U

I love home made indian food and once you learn a few recipes you will never want to eat takeaway again. Maybe we should do a recipe swap. I have a rather fabulous authentic Indian Roast Lamb dish (and I am a vegetarian but all my friends love this one)

Firewalker

Very occasionally days like today happen; you know, the kind of day where you put items on your to-do list and think ‘Tim, forgive me but shall I turn this little piece of paper over so I can fit everything on?’ Then you go and get all of them done! So all in all a productive if tiring day! To top it all I also had a very nice and civilised Skype conference with the guys I had a terrible argument at a meeting in Paris couple of months back.

The bad news is that, probably because we left it so late, our tickets to my country of origin will cost an arm and a leg – literally. Not sure what to do – we need to go; we will have to spend there a long time (at least four weeks); probably should go back to the 4 Hour Work Week – I seem to remember that there was some very handy advice there on how to wait till the last moment and get cheap flights. Oh, dear! Probably time for some wishing to the Universe.

Firewalker

Firewalker

Recipe swap will be very much appreciated - you know that cooking has become my homage to womanhood. MG, like the spirit of the title although agree that the form can do with a bit more work.

Firewalker