what to do? no more options anymore....

DCFC79

Well good luck, hope you find something you like

jfdi

https://apprenticeshipvacancymatchingservice.lsc.gov.uk/Navms/Forms/Vacancy/SearchVacancyResult.aspx?Query=C19%2bZUGYYHGkSvrxoZzIUAmrELh6OfqiVIv2UCp%2brGeDD7CLoLcdImZW2ly2CM7UG5Dk%2f93cJKxABaEYSkpHRQ0Y82RizwIYx7h8wuz77s8jFjFM3ci4LBUbfUhWegcHRrMJwLt4Rdum5Muy1qLP2rtfEFuUvCZ777IF3dnJ5QvTAA6xdPLbeMHcUa270%2bHe4oOvur9MZCoLWgyx%2feDTLmNynJVEKaLTToFDVnufqKOuOU39Enu0dSd%2fhdSBV3EiE6%2fTl1R3mTrlt8S4v0tQX88t455IWYu8NCuXxjKZa9tjzthKwV9wtkPSTH6z9bg6yR0vQ5QlL8AAA6lCFYq9qm8LD0R1lvVuu5nl5wPxZAiwR9wglTIwBqDmMHIS0%2bmXHQ2SI9c%2bOePXS48bgnpTG1v6158ekX%2frxtZUpo7dTgRqiTLXeVsQjD6huX8wBY8H5A7FgFqEVi83SP4r679J4V%2b2TwRx9wQukugWFcmTEEI%3d

Any good?

DCFC79

Job needed, good luck with teh interview

alunharford

jobneeded wrote: »

... and it would only be a very small time part time course as we would be going off on trips e.g Playing football,playing game's going light water rafting etc and going on trips out)(to which i asked"well if that's the case shouldn't we actually go to Wakefield college where the learning environment is a good environment?(as we were in a childish classroom with other 12-13 year old's that were basically annoying all us candidate's(as we'd been listening to there carrying on for hours)

... while i was stood up getting my things together and began this well rant so to speak then began to stand up - tear up the forms and walk out in disgust.
and left feedback with the manager the next day to go on and say that the meeting yesterday(with this certain woman) was a disgrace and how she was so arrogant,obnoxious and patronizing. to which the manager simply said well I'm sorry you felt it went badly but this is just how E2E works you see."

Some people are totally incompetent and clueless. And they tend to work for the government.

If you're going to get upset, do it with class. Going to the manager and having a tantrum didn't get you anywhere, and it was never going to. Total waste of time you could have spent doing something else. The whole situation is unpleasant and threatening for the manager and the first thing they're going to do is try to get rid of you by fobbing you off.

If you had tried 'this lady needs some more support' then you would have been asked to explain why you thought that. If you then carefully explained what happened (but not trying to assign blame or say that she's useless) then the manager would conclude that she is a disgrace (turning up hours late with no apology is totally unacceptable) and take action. You might then have got some useful help. This doesn't always work, but your current approach never works.

jobneeded wrote: »

... being treat like naughty children all day and being patronized by arrogant obnoxious woman.

As far as the government is concerned, until you're in employment, education or training you are naughty children. You're just going to have to make the best of that.

viktory

Oldernotwiser wrote: »

I think it's his attitude that's the problem here and it's obviously coming across in his applications!

Totally agree. I have read this thread through and think the OP is coming across really badly - arrogant and rude. A bad combination considering he is unemployed and desperate for help.

jobneeded wrote: »

hi again

Yeah i have but am sadly being turned down seems the only way to get an apprenticeship is to go through agencies who specialize in apprenticeships that deal in the industry that your interested in eg mechanical industry and any other industry really there's usually one out there

Rob

Rubbish. My son walked into an apprenticeship with Honda (parts advisor) and when he completed that (and the Honda Challenge) he was then offered an apprenticeship as a vehicle technician.

hellokitty08

Ok hope some of this will help you but here is my experience, having worked for two colleges and Connexions. (and I am a realist, I give straight to the point information)

Both Connexions and www.apprenticeships.org.uk actually have vacancies that they cant fill all of the time, so some where you have not been getting the realistic help and support you could do with. In my experience lots of people who work with young people try to be to friendly with them and dont give them the facts that they actually need and would be helpful to them.

Sending speculative letters does work, some of the employers that I speak to say they have recruited that way, that young people have either dropped letters off and them followed them up with a phone call. Dont just send them through the post as many of them get faceless letters.

Ask for reference from your work experience placements and send these out with your application forms/ speculative letters. This will give you an advantage over others.

At your age your now going to be competing with 16 years old who are due to leave college this year. Employers are going to want to know what you have been doing for two years. A two year gap on a CV looks really bad, as does the fact that on paper you will not appear to have done anything to improve your numeracy, literacy skills. Some colleges / training providers that I know of wouldn’t consider your application as they would be looking for candidates with C's and above and they can get these candidates so wouldnt have any need to process your application any further, as they would feel you would be a greater risk of not being able to complete the programme. (this is why you now need to be considering what can you do to make you competitive again. No one owes you a job, (not that you said that) you have to prove that you deserve one and this can be very hard with little to sell yourself)

As mentioned, parts advisor roles are in my experience very under considered roles, so get less applications, however they offer good routes in to employment with good companies.

We all sometimes need to play the game of life in order to get anywhere. I was once told there is no reason why any young person should complain about being unemployed because if they wanted to they could always get a job in McDonalds etc. Now whilst this might not be ideal or your first career choice, I dont ever remember being fussy about where my first job was, to me a job was a job and once you have a job it is usually easier to get another, as you have a provable track record of employability skills.

If there is anything that I can do for you to help, just let me know.

dannyjebb

Tip for the driving, there is a site called young marmalade that will insure you and cover a parent/guardian to teach you. I think its £20 a week but if you get a few hours practice a day you could easily be ready for your test within a month

SueC_2

jobneeded wrote: »

Would a repsective employer say no to an apprentice seeker with the following?

Work experience:
Mercedes Benz(2 weeks work from high school as mercedes benz asked for me specially and personally)
2 Years in a motor mechanic's course working at level 1
Waldorf MOT and servicing (turned up one day the next day.. they threw me the keys to a customers car and let me do a major service) not the fact that i was only 15 and still in my last year of high school) (wednesdays to visit work experience as it was related to my mechanics course)
Firth truck and Van (was moved from waldorf mot as the training provider said i could accomplish much higher tasks.)
Wastecare(when id finally finished school) one weeks work as a temporary laborer working with mercury,lead acid,amalgam and other highly toxic and flammable susbtances.
Having been braught up around classic cars(FORDS mainly) having capri's,mk1 escorts,mk1 fiesta's (me) :rotfl:from a very young age and having a life time ambition to be a mechanic eg service technician i think any employer would know that he OR she is not going to be messed around by me.
Turn up to interviews in a full suit,CV,Smile,Happy answering questions and asking questions which should be asked.

Apparently yes, otherwise you would have an apprenticeship by now.

emmell

I am local to you (op) and when my son left college he couldn't find a job, nothing advertised in the papers. He did three years at New College Pontefract and worked 6 nights a week cleaning down in a Fish & Chip shop for some pocket money. He left college in the July and come September had still not found anything, so I convinced him to go to the jobcentre, as I thought they may know of jobs that aren't advertised.
They sent him to a Staff Agency to sign on for agency work. The next day he got a phone call to go to a Trailer Hire company (HGV), where he was learnt about Tachographs and other related things. He loved it and when he saw a job advertised at a Logistics Co., he applied, had about three interviews (lots of people applied), and got offered the job.
He checked with the company he was working (temping) with and they couldn't offer him permanent employment so he went for the new job, he's now been there 6 years.
I think if he hadn't had the experience of the agency work he wouldn't have got the permanent job.
I hope this makes sense as I'm late for a Doctors appointement so can only check it when I get back.
ML.