Weekly Flylady Thread 15th March 2010

helen_jelly

soappie wrote: »

Jinky - please pass on my thoughts, prayers, hugs and miracles to L-L when you have a moment.

Oh boy, seems I'm in trouble. Had to nip up to best friend up the road's house for a signature on something. She had some info to impart. Remember I picked up an old boy for a meeting last week? Well, seems his git faced son who lives just round the corner (known to be a money grabbing bully apparently) has been in the corner shop demanding to know where I live because he wants to know how dare I take him out etc. etc.....The corner shop (fortunately!) didn't release that info to him.

I am now in a real quandary. When I dropped the old boy back last week, he said he wanted to come to a public meeting on Weds. I said I'd organise a lift for him (which probably means I'll pick him up myself!). I don't know what to do now. I arranged to pick him up for last week's meeting after phoning him on the suggestion of a Council officer.

He does not appear to be gaga in anyway, just physically frail. He lives in sheltered accommodation and has his own flat - even though there are loads of panic buttons etc.. The wardens were very aware I was taking him out in his wheelchair (I even went to the office with him because there was an issue with his keys) and there was no obstruction from them.

What do I do now? I can't phone him and say "your son says he doesn't want me taking you out" and yet the old boy seemed to positively enjoy coming to the meeting last week and will enjoy Wednesday's.

NN has suggested I phone the home tomorrow and speak to the warden and see if there's any reason why the old boy can't come out on a jaunt which I will do. But I wondered if you clever flyladies had any suggestions or advise on how to deal with the situation

there is such a thing as a Mental Capacity Act that says that the vulnerable person [be they old or have some kind of disability] have the right to make choices for themselves about how they live and what they can do with their time, money etc. The only way that this can be changed is for a team of specialists to have a meeting and decide that the person is unfit to make a decision in a particular area for them selves and that the right for choice can be withdrawn by these peolpe [who are all professionals]. This means that the son can NOT make the decisions for or on behalf of his father without there having been a meeting about the problem [hope this is all making sense]. The Warden of the home will be VERY aware of any problems and is the best person to ask, he/she will not be able to give you any details as that goes against Data Protection however they will be able to say if the gentleman in question can come out with you. Hope that helps and this is by no way a professional opinion, but I have just done a little bit of training on this and that's my understanding of the way it works, please feel free anyone to correct me if I have got it wrong

Helen x

Jojo_the_Tightfisted

Sandy71, Sandy, Sandy - when I was a medical secretary, if one of the lovely nurses asked me to get someone seen that they particularly liked, I would usually try and catch the consultant off guard/on the way/agreeing to something else, as I knew full well when he wasn't paying attention, he would usually say 'just stick 'em on the end of Tuesday's clinic list'. No dire diagnosis/suspicion was necessary, it was just a case of scheming, devious manipulation of a poor defenceless Consultant Surgeon!!!!!!!!!


In the same way, if someone was being investigated for something horrid, if there was a gap because a meeting had been cancelled, I'd book in the most worried for 'drop in' appointments, just so the boss wasn't sitting there drumming his fingers (and coming up with great schemes which made tons more work for me) and they didn't have to wait as long to get the all clear/the clinic schedule acquired some convenient gaps for additional urgent appointments.

(But this is technically a secret, as if the department manager had known, she would have gone spare as it affected her figures and targets)

The machiavellian machinations of a medical secretary

Anyway, the point is (yes, I do have a point) that it doesn't instantly mean a disaster to get seen so quickly - it could easily be a nice nurse calling in a favour with the consultant/his secretary!

Will be thinking of you tomorrow. And Lady-L. And everyone else.

xxxxxxx

Triker

Special hugs to Lady L.

Also hugs to Ruth.

Soappie, tough one to call, do you think the son will look for a confrontation, if so then cancel, if not then go ahead. He seems a real bully though, be careful If in doubt you know who to ring. x

Done tea, had a long, long day at work, did a presentation which went well.

Bin out

WM X 2

washing hung over bannister.

DW x 2

hex2

Jinky - please pass on some !!!!! cat kisses from my babies for Lady L.

DW is on and the kitchen has been S&S'd but not much else sorted. Major problems at work today which is always fun. Need to sort lunch boxes and unifroms before I slope off for a long soak in the bath with something suitably escapist.

Triker - I really want the chicken and the cat for my bracelet now so deeply envious. I can see me wasting lots of money......

Also hugs for Ruth/Ben and Sandy

3tabbycats

Hi all..
　
LL - Hugs & thought to you..xx
Toots -Hope all goes/is going smoothly with your hospital visit..I'll be missing your big catch-up posts!
Ruth - (((((hugs)))))
Sandy71 - Hope all goes ok tomorrow,
Pen Pen - Nice to see what you look like, that’s what I like about FB, its good to put faces to names
　
Monday ~ Kitchen and Dining room
Level One
Sweep and mop floor
Level Two
Wipe units and appliances..
Level Three
Scrub out the fridge
Clean oven and hob!

gotnodosh

Good evening all,

Seems like a lot of hugs are needed! So here they are :grouphug: :grouphug: :grouphug: (they look well dodgy lol)

Had a nice quiet day doing some flying and relaxing in between. Was going to step and tone this morning but it was cancelled so I went home and got on with some more flying and chilling instead.

Starting my voluntary job at Help4Heroes tomorrow, quite looking forward to it, will get me out the house and back to adult company.

Anyway, here is my updated list:

Monday ~ Kitchen and Dining room
Level One
[STRIKE]Sweep and mop floor[/STRIKE]
[STRIKE]Clear and wipe worksurfaces[/STRIKE]
Level Two
[STRIKE]Wipe units and appliances.. [/STRIKE]
clean blinds/curtains
Clear and wipe table.. clean cloth!
Level Three
Scrub out the fridge
[STRIKE]Clean oven and hob![/STRIKE]
[STRIKE]Clear window sills of gibble![/STRIKE]
Extras

1. [STRIKE]Binbag dance[/STRIKE]
2. HHI
3. [STRIKE]Wipe small appliances[/STRIKE]
4. Clean out the vacuum cleaner.. wash filters etc!

Almost there!

cally_c

Evening all,

Sandy all the best for your appointment tomorrow,

Monday ~ Kitchen and Dining room
:j:jALL DONE:j:j

off for a cuppa!

soappie

helen_jelly wrote: »

there is such a thing as a Mental Capacity Act that says that the vulnerable person [be they old or have some kind of disability] have the right to make choices for themselves about how they live and what they can do with their time, money etc. The only way that this can be changed is for a team of specialists to have a meeting

Thanks for that Helen - it's really useful! I will phone the home tomorrow....

Triker wrote: »

Special hugs to Lady L.
Soappie, tough one to call, do you think the son will look for a confrontation, if so then cancel, if not then go ahead. He seems a real bully though, be careful If in doubt you know who to ring. x

If the son is looking for a confrontation, I'm capable of handling it I've decided He's a bully but not violent (as far as I'm aware - and if he gets violent, I definitely know who to call, and I know where he lives). I've dealt with bullies before - and won

But I'm going up the corner shop in the morning to get the word from the horse's mouth rather than second hand (I prefer, at the end of the day, to work with primary rather than secondary sources). Then I'll call the home and make a decision from there.

I have also put out a couple of feeler phone calls this evening to see'f there's someone else can pick him up

juliejim

Well apart from an hour's ironing this morning and a load of washing I've done nothing today.
Went to work, had an observation, came home went to Lidl, took kids to McDs for tea as I hadn't got time to cook, went to Beavers, came home, kids in bed and I've caught up on the thread.

Sandy - thinking of you - as others have said there's always someone here to talk to.

Vanilla - hugs - hope DH's meds get sorted soon.

Ruth - hugs.

I really don't feel like doing anything but going to bed but I think I'll do a HHC in the kitchen so at least I'll have done something.

MrsChaos

LL, vanilla, Ruth and Sandy - lots of hugs and good wishes are on their way to you. Thinking of you puts my minor sniffles into perspective.

Sexy - well done for today. I only managed 'satisfactory' in a much easier situation the other week, albeit with a nightmare class. Wait until tomorrow morning and give yourself a bit of time and a cuppa to come round. If you feel you really can't cope, then phone in sick.

I'm in again this week, even if I don't know how much I'll get done. Work, kids and trying to stay reasonably healthy will have to be the main priorities until Easter. I'm trying to delegate (e.g. DS1 helping his brother with homework) and it's not going too badly. I also need to sleep more - haven't managed more than 5 hours per night since Thursday, and it's showing. Once I've given DH a lift and collected DS2's toy car from his nan's I'm going to tidy the kitchen (dishes and laundry), plan the last lesson for tomorrow and go to bed. I've started to work between 6 and 7am, which is really working well for me.
Right, time to make a move. Have a good week, everyone.
MrsCx