Mechanics ? Would a pothole do this to a freelander ?

Somerset

Ok, was happily trundling along and hit a massive pothole. Thought I heard the underneath of the car scrape but everything seemed ok. Continued along for about six miles and the car died. It's was recovered to the local garage that looks after it and I've now got it back. Cost just short of £600. Parts replaced camshaft sensor, temp sensor, wire harness & fuel pump. First off, I know and trust the garage. Initially (when it went on the diagnostics machine) the two sensors were knackered hence parts ordered and replaced. No lights were showing faults on my dashboard prior to the pothole and I didn't notice any after (but I was following a removal van and may have missed them). When the vehicle still wasn't running after these were replaced, the fuel pump was looked at/removed. It would run ok out of the car but not when it went back in, hence new fuel pump.

Was it the pothole ? The car seemed to have had a minor heart attack ie lots of different things go wrong all at once, soon after the pothole episode (approx six miles after). So putting two and two together ........ But equally, me being non-mechanical, I would have thought if the pothole did screw things up, it would have had an immediate effect ie the car would have stopped straight after ?

So any opinions ? If mechanically minded people think it could have been or was likely caused by the pothole, I'll make a claim. If people think it was nothing to do with the pothole and just a fault with the car and it could have gone at any time, obviously I won't.

Just seemed a bit of a co-incidence to me . But I may be putting two and two together and making five .

somech

did you say the fuel pump WORKED out of the car but NOT when fitted in the car

sounds like the shock from pothole tripped the inertia switch

sounds like the garage are pishing in the wind

onejontwo

As they are usually well protected underneath (after they are supposed to be off-roaders!) I suspect possibly the bump has jarred something loose and by replacing parts this is there way of fault finding.

Somerset

somech wrote: »

did you say the fuel pump WORKED out of the car but NOT when fitted in the car

sounds like the shock from pothole tripped the inertia switch

sounds like the garage are pishing in the wind

Yep that's what I said. Mechanic said the shock may have shaken it up and whipped it out to try and sort it himself. It would work outside but not back in the car, he tried several times. But I still trust the garage - he gave me the old fuel pump which is now sitting in the back of the car so can't see the profit (unless it's a different one). But then it's a 'general' type of garage - can't see that he's have a spare one laying around. Don't make me doubt the garage

Somerset

onejontwo wrote: »

As they are usually well protected underneath (after they are supposed to be off-roaders!) I suspect possibly the bump has jarred something loose and by replacing parts this is there way of fault finding.

Don't quite get that ?

cyclonebri1

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Somerset wrote: »

Ok, was happily trundling along and hit a massive pothole. Thought I heard the underneath of the car scrape but everything seemed ok. Continued along for about six miles and the car died. It's was recovered to the local garage that looks after it and I've now got it back. Cost just short of £600. Parts replaced camshaft sensor, temp sensor, wire harness & fuel pump. First off, I know and trust the garage. Initially (when it went on the diagnostics machine) the two sensors were knackered hence parts ordered and replaced. No lights were showing faults on my dashboard prior to the pothole and I didn't notice any after (but I was following a removal van and may have missed them). When the vehicle still wasn't running after these were replaced, the fuel pump was looked at/removed. It would run ok out of the car but not when it went back in, hence new fuel pump.

Was it the pothole ? The car seemed to have had a minor heart attack ie lots of different things go wrong all at once, soon after the pothole episode (approx six miles after). So putting two and two together ........ But equally, me being non-mechanical, I would have thought if the pothole did screw things up, it would have had an immediate effect ie the car would have stopped straight after ?

So any opinions ? If mechanically minded people think it could have been or was likely caused by the pothole, I'll make a claim. If people think it was nothing to do with the pothole and just a fault with the car and it could have gone at any time, obviously I won't.

Just seemed a bit of a co-incidence to me . But I may be putting two and two together and making five .

What sort of "offroader" has a heart attack and dies at the 1st bump:T:T:T:T
I will say no more

Somerset

cyclonebri1 wrote: »

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What sort of "offroader" has a heart attack and dies at the 1st bump:T:T:T:T

It was a big bump

colino

I don't think you are taking on board the point above about the inertia switch. In an accident (or maybe this heavy jolt) it prevents the fuel pump running so that fuel doesnt cause a fire hazard.
If your pump runs from an independent power supply that tells you that it is fine but the loom to it, or the relay, the immobiliser or the inertia switch need checked.

Wow

You were happily trundling along and you failed to see a massive pothole?????????

onejontwo

Somerset wrote: »

Don't quite get that ?

I mean to try and cure the fault they try a temp sensor first and if not cured next they try a camshaft sensor, then a fuel pump and so on. The down side of this is that you will have to pay for these parts whether faulty or not. To be honest it's highly unlikely that 2 sensors, a fuel pump and a wiring harness all fail at the same time.

Somerset

colino wrote: »

I don't think you are taking on board the point above about the inertia switch. In an accident (or maybe this heavy jolt) it prevents the fuel pump running so that fuel doesnt cause a fire hazard.
If your pump runs from an independent power supply that tells you that it is fine but the loom to it, or the relay, the immobiliser or the inertia switch need checked.

I sort of do and don't. The works been done, the new fuel pump is in and the garage has been paid. I could go back to the garage and ask about the inertia switch, if he'd checked it. But I'm out of my depth (non-mechanical) and he could bulls**t me, say he'd checked etc. Is the wire harness (that was replaced) at the same time, the loom you are referring to ?
If the mechanic has cocked up or replaced something that was repairable I'm stuffed. He told me after the sensors were done that the car still wasn't running and it was likely it was the pump. He tested the pump and then told me he couldn't get it to work in the car so it needed a new one - I said ''ok do it''. I'd find it difficult to quizz him about the stuff you guys are talking about because I know !!!!!! all about it.

I'm getting the jist that the pothole probably caused the car to 'shut down' but that all the repairs done may not have been necessary. So do you think it's worth making a claim re the pothole ? It's kind of grey in my mind (the recovery/sensors/some mechanic time is down to the pothole ??? )