care work - difficult people

cat_lady_4

Sadly, it is probably possible. the agency i work for sometimes will not give you a certificate for any training they provide and charge £20 for them. we dont paid for training either and i suspect in your case they would deduct from your final wage packet. we also get charged for our payslips!

honeyD

cat_lady wrote: »

Sadly, it is probably possible. the agency i work for sometimes will not give you a certificate for any training they provide and charge £20 for them. we dont paid for training either and i suspect in your case they would deduct from your final wage packet. we also get charged for our payslips!

But do you get them after you leave? :huh:
I dont like the idea of paying £100 just to leave and not have anything to take with me lol.

cat_lady_4

the certificates? no. the agency keep them.

cat_lady_4

i dont fancy your chances if i am honest, my agency take the view that why should they pay for training which other people then benefit from.

Savvy_Sue

honeyD wrote: »

When I first started up with the company they gave me training which was to get all the needed certification to start, first aid etc etc. Now, they have said if we leave before a certain time they will charge us for the weeks training. Can they do this?

Only if there is a clause written in your terms and conditions which says they will. If they haven't put it in writing, it would be an unlawful deduction of earnings.

For example, I told our payroll provider that someone was leaving before they'd worked for us for a year, and that they had taken more leave than they were entitled to, so please could they deduct X days pay from their final salary. And our payroll provider checked, explicitly, that there was a clause in their contract saying we would do this. Which there was!

honeyD wrote: »

I was not paid for this week's time and do not have the certificates or even copies.

I find that quite unreasonable, tbh - not so much not giving you the certificates, but not paying you while you were training.

Especially if you can't take the certificates with you when you leave, it must mean there's a continual cycle of people being trained just because they can't demonstrate that they are qualified, but if you're not paid for that time, surely you should be entitled to get the certificate!

If you pay them for your training course, by working for nothing that week and paying them if you leave within a year, surely YOU get the certificate?

Mind you, I have suggested that we might want to put a 'repayment of training if you leave within X months' into our contracts, we HAVE paid out for first aid and similar courses for people who have then left within 6 months. But they do get to keep their certificates, AND they were paid while they were trained, so I really don't think we're being unreasonable to ask them to pay the cost of that actual training!

honeyD

Ive read through my contract and all I can see is a section that says:
"Deductions from your salary.... company is authorised to deduct monies owed arising of your employment or termination of employment including loans and value of property, materials belonging to company"
I dont see anywhere that says they can take extra for induction training?
Would fighting this mean I am less likely to get a good reference? :eek:

Savvy_Sue

honeyD wrote: »

Would fighting this mean I am less likely to get a good reference? :eek:

Very possibly. but then just leaving within a year, or asking not to go to a particular client, or making waves of any kind might have the same effect. Could be worth finding out what their policy on references is anyway: a company who do no more than confirm dates you were employed might be useful in this situation.

I'd read that clause out to ACAS when they open tomorrow and ask for their view.