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Age 7 government child trust fund payments not being released!!!
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Liam,
I'd love to see you quit your jobs voluntarily, and actually get those benefits you think you would.All over the place, from the popular culture to the propaganda system, there is constant pressure to make people feel that they are helpless, that the only role they can have is to ratify decisions and to consume.0 -
Deepmistrust wrote: »Could you explain in more detail how this would widen the gap between non-worker and worker?
It maybe wouldn't widen the gap as such, but it would add value to benefits, as they would be earned, rather than received for nothing.0 -
It maybe wouldn't widen the gap as such, but it would add value to benefits, as they would be earned, rather than received for nothing.
Ah, so it would do nothing to improve the workers position, to ensure that working is always better than not working, but would make you feel better to see someone who has lost their job, not only face the normal struggles that come with that, but to be forced into community service usually reserved for criminals?All over the place, from the popular culture to the propaganda system, there is constant pressure to make people feel that they are helpless, that the only role they can have is to ratify decisions and to consume.0 -
Just been watching for a while.
To put it quite simply it was been proven that you can earn more doing nothing than when going to work, yes this might be in limited cases but this should never be the case.Have my first business premises (+4th business) 01/11/2017
Quit day job to run 3 businesses 08/02/2017
Started third business 25/06/2016
Son born 13/09/2015
Started a second business 03/08/2013
Officially the owner of my own business since 13/01/20120 -
Deepmistrust wrote: »Liam,
I'd love to see you quit your jobs voluntarily, and actually get those benefits you think you would.
If I had left school at 16 and chosen to do nothing with my life, and didn't have the morality to support my own family, I don't think it would be that difficult to lose a job.
I can understand why you would love to see somebody quit their job and be better off on benefits though, going by your comments so far.0 -
Deepmistrust wrote: »You do like to rant about the word "rant". I'm actually keeping a tally (sad I know:rotfl:), on your use of your favoured easy-to-spell but worn-out-and-passed-its-usefulness word.
In the last 18 pages, you have used it no less than 97 times.:rotfl::rotfl:
Have you seriously got nothing better to do!!!0 -
It maybe wouldn't widen the gap as such, but it would add value to benefits, as they would be earned, rather than received for nothing.
And as the financial position of both people would not change, can you still explain (as some people seem to think being unemployed would make them better off), why then that unemployment wouldn't become a career choice then in itself, in return of a spot of community service ?
So (in your world where the unemployed are better off) the choice is still:
a. Work and be in poverty
b. Be unemployed and do a bit of charity work, and still be "better off" than an employed worker?
:rotfl:All over the place, from the popular culture to the propaganda system, there is constant pressure to make people feel that they are helpless, that the only role they can have is to ratify decisions and to consume.0 -
Just been watching for a while.
To put it quite simply it was been proven that you can earn more doing nothing than when going to work, yes this might be in limited cases but this should never be the case.
If you beleive that please reply to post 629
And where was it proven?
EDIT: Sorry, i realised you just agreed with me, that it will only happen in a limited amount of cases. That, that happens cannot be avoided. It is an inevitable consequence (there is even a scientific name for it, which isn't coming to mind at the moment). Basically, it's along the lines of ; every rule will have its exceptions.All over the place, from the popular culture to the propaganda system, there is constant pressure to make people feel that they are helpless, that the only role they can have is to ratify decisions and to consume.0 -
If I had left school at 16 and chosen to do nothing with my life, and didn't have the morality to support my own family, I don't think it would be that difficult to lose a job.
I can understand why you would love to see somebody quit their job and be better off on benefits though, going by your comments so far.
Again, wittering on about a minority who have never worked. You do understand that what happens to JSA is going to affect ALL unemployed people? This is not really sinking in, is it?
Obviously you missed the bit where I said "and get the benefits you THINK you would get". You wouldn't be better off at all. But it would be funny if you did it. What with you being a hypocrite and all that;)All over the place, from the popular culture to the propaganda system, there is constant pressure to make people feel that they are helpless, that the only role they can have is to ratify decisions and to consume.0 -
Deepmistrust wrote: »
a. Work and be in poverty
b. Be unemployed and do a bit of charity work, and still be "better off" than an employed worker?
:rotfl:
Quite simply workers should be paid more or less benefits should be paid.
As for choice b, I would rather that than them doing the nothing they are now and being rewarded for it.Have my first business premises (+4th business) 01/11/2017
Quit day job to run 3 businesses 08/02/2017
Started third business 25/06/2016
Son born 13/09/2015
Started a second business 03/08/2013
Officially the owner of my own business since 13/01/20120
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