Age 7 government child trust fund payments not being released!!!

ultrawomble

shegirl wrote: »

And yes it's still for everyone but it's pathetic and if you can't try and be healthy yourself (not that anyone uses it for it's purpose) then there is something wrong with you!

I take it you've never heard of people and glass houses? I'd be very wary of criticising the system when you've clearly benefited from it when it suited you.

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Deepmistrust

shegirl wrote: »

Women don't suddenly decide at 25 weeks or so gone that they are now going to try some healthy food because they've been given £190!Get real!

Education and encouragement is what is needed not a £190 handout that's spent on carpets,decorating,weekends away,saving for holidays,clothes shopping or whatever else they fancy spending it on!

There are many agencies that support education and encouragement, one thing the government got right is the Sure Start Childrens Centres. Here they get all the advice, and support imaginable. But for some people on a low budget, who have never even had any idea how to cook a meal before, even the outlay of planning for a healthy pregnacy can seem daunting. I have no idea where your ideas about parents on low incomes who qualify for help comes from.

Like I said, high horses are all very well and good, but there can come an almighty fall.

POPPYOSCAR

ultrawomble wrote: »

Because vouchers imply that you cannot be trusted. That's a pretty big stigma. They also add another layer of bureaucracy - something I'm sure you'll be against.

I don't think vouchers imply you can't be trusted.I would have no problem being given vouchers.If I remember correctly, I think my mum had milk tokens for my brother she had no problem with this. I love vouchers and collect them whenever I can!! A few years ago we had a card because of our income for free dental treatment etc. I had no problem using it, I was just grateful I did not have to pay.

shegirl

ultrawomble wrote: »

I take it you've never heard of people and glass houses? I'd be very wary of criticising the system when you've clearly benefited from it when it suited you.

http://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/showpost.html?p=33122565&postcount=77

I had £100 when I was 17 to buy things for my baby.And?I stated that the Sure Start Grant should be cut and not for every child,not that a complete scrappage was needed.That everything can be purchased cheaper and new should not be sought when you cannot afford to do it.

So,your post was a little pointless I'm afraid

Deepmistrust

POPPYOSCAR wrote: »

I don't think vouchers imply you can't be trusted.I would have no problem being given vouchers.If I remember correctly, I think my mum had milk tokens for my brother she had no problem with this. I love vouchers and collect them whenever I can!! A few years ago we had a card because of our income for free dental treatment etc. I had no problem using it, I was just grateful I did not have to pay.

Lots of people do have problems with milk tokes, they imply a lower social class, or status.

Even schools have dragged themselves into the 21st century, years ago, the poor kids had to line up for their dinner voucher while the better off kids when straight to the front of queue.

shegirl

Deepmistrust wrote: »

There are many agencies that support education and encouragement, one thing the government got right is the Sure Start Childrens Centres. Here they get all the advice, and support imaginable. But for some people on a low budget, who have never even had any idea how to cook a meal before, even the outlay of planning for a healthy pregnacy can seem daunting. I have no idea where your ideas about parents on low incomes who qualify for help comes from.

Like I said, high horses are all very well and good, but there can come an almighty fall.

What ideas on parents of low incomes?

And having no idea means you should be given £190 and then spend it on whatever you like does it?

shegirl

Deepmistrust wrote: »

Lots of people do have problems with milk tokes, they imply a lower social class, or status.

Even schools have dragged themselves into the 21st century, years ago, the poor kids had to line up for their dinner voucher while the better off kids when straight to the front of queue.

That's one thing I agree with.If the scheme should exsist it should be by way of fruit and veg box deliveries or similar schemes

Deepmistrust

shegirl wrote: »

What ideas on parents of low incomes?

And having no idea means you should be given £190 and then spend it on whatever you like does it?

Do you want to give them vouchers for the local greengrocers?
We are dealing with disadvantaged ADULTS here. Does someone tell you how to spend your child benefit?

shegirl

Deepmistrust wrote: »

Do you want to give them vouchers for the local greengrocers?
We are dealing with disadvantaged ADULTS here. Does someone tell you how to spend your child benefit?

No,nobody tells me how to spend child benefit because I don't need somebody to tell me that I should provide for my son.

Deepmistrust

shegirl wrote: »

That's one thing I agree with.If the scheme should exsist it should be by way of fruit and veg box deliveries or similar schemes

how about child benefit? Should we also replace child benefit with healty snacks and cheap or second hand clothing deliveries?

How much do you think that would cost to administer? Or perhaps we can means test people, and those in the most need who qualify, are treated like the grown ups they are. They may not have had the best start in life themselves, or maybe they are just in a bad situation for a short time, eitherway, fundamentally, they are grown ups, and should be treated as such.