The Gifted and Talented Register in schools

bonty44

Artytarty wrote: »

Musical means not necessarily good at playing the instrument but its more that he has a natural sense of rhythm and timing.
He has a good ear and can pitch a note. he will know in a sequence if the next note played was higher /lower than the previous.
its an inate talent and something that many people struggle to learn , for him its natural!
It means that he has musical potential (not nec. on violin) not that he is a great player/ singer/ whatever at present.
It may be the violin is no the instrument for him but he should be able to get many years of pleasure from music if he finds the opportunity/ encouragement.
good luck!

This is exactly what DS1s teacher has said about DS1 who is also on the G&T register for music; but he is also very proficient at playing the guitar!

Spendless

sneezyboots wrote: »

not completely true. some schools operate a % rule. others operate a 'well above average for age rule' or some let the teachers do as they please. i have worked in both. in my current class there is no specific rule, just anybody who particularly needs extending beyond the norm in a particular subject so we are aware of that when planning, just as you have a list of children with SEN who we make provision for. It is just there to ensure you are differentiating your planning enough upwards as well as downwards. I have a few subjects where i have not put any children on the list and a couple where i have more.

Interesting. Would the school let you know which way they decide who is on the G & T register if I asked? I'd rather they weren't operating a top 10% policy tbh cos I think that would change if he went to a better/poorer school, I'd rather have that they've seen something there worth expanding on.

Sue- I have thought about approaching school re maths, unfortunately I missed parent's evening last week and DH went. I need to clarify what is happening though, no point going to teacher if it turns out DS is the worst culprit for talking in lessons.

sneezyboots

the teacher would be able to tell you, or if for any reason they were being funny you could ask to see the G&T policy which should state it too.

Artytarty

Yes, music and maths are closely related. Pattern and counting, especially when it comes to reading sheet music! My son was good at both too.I know many children from south Korea and from China who also seem to excel at both. Ive never been able to out what difference their culture makes , but I am sure there is some connection.

pingua

Our eldest is pants at maths - his younger brother probably knows more !! But yet the eldest is musical. This was unknown to us till a teacher at school told us. So we decided to get him lessons - (which he loves) and he now does two instruments and has asked to do another - but thats going a bit far......... Have set the limit at two - lessons are so expensive.

We have a 'poxy' village school so other than the 'tin whistle' 5 lessons a year type thing the kids don't get anything above that. Such a shame. We have to go private music lessons as there are not enough kids to get the music teachers in.

Gingham_Ribbon

Spendless wrote: »

Interesting. Would the school let you know which way they decide who is on the G & T register if I asked? I'd rather they weren't operating a top 10% policy tbh cos I think that would change if he went to a better/poorer school, I'd rather have that they've seen something there worth expanding on.

Sue- I have thought about approaching school re maths, unfortunately I missed parent's evening last week and DH went. I need to clarify what is happening though, no point going to teacher if it turns out DS is the worst culprit for talking in lessons.

The school should have a written policy document for G&T but many still don't yet. I'd certainly ask as you need to find out what it means and how you can help him.

You know what I'm going to say next...talk to the NAGC. :beer:

Savvy_Sue

pingua wrote: »

Our eldest is pants at maths - his younger brother probably knows more !! But yet the eldest is musical.

DH says that many more mathematicians are musical than musicians are mathematical.

He says even at school he noticed that the maths teachers all played musical instruments, but the music teachers didn't solve quadratic equations in their spare time! :rotfl:

mum2one

I didn't realise it was a national thing, I thought it was just our local school, dd got put in for her english and maths.
You learn something new every day x

patchwork_cat

Our schools have all been rubbish at G&T. Both my kids were identified as G&T, but they were very vague in what. My DS was identified at High School and the most he ever got out of it where 3 booster sessions in English, maths, History and Science before exams and to attend school for 3 days in teh summer hols in Year 7! Mind they did go to The Deep on one day and had a lecturer in from the University to do some experiments.

My son was reputedly very good in languages and put in the top set etc and as a result able to take German instead of French - we were stunned as we are not linguists at all - guess what of the 13 GCSE's he took he only 'failed' (not a-c ) one yeah - German!!!

We had a parents evening last night and they were saying my DD (yr 7)is brilliant at languages and top - again stunned looks at each other, must make sure it is not our bias that means she doesn't fulfill any budding potential, but I can't help thinking it is an early blip!!!

Spendless

Gingham_Ribbon wrote: »

The school should have a written policy document for G&T but many still don't yet. I'd certainly ask as you need to find out what it means and how you can help him.

You know what I'm going to say next...talk to the NAGC. :beer:

I'll wait till I've had the music parents evening but what would I ring up and say? I mean 'my son has been identified as being G & T in music but I've no idea why cos all I hear is a screechy violin on the rare occassions he practices' doesn't sound quite right-lol