Disabled Student's Allowance -- worth applying for mental health?

Indie_Kid

poet123 wrote: »

It can be quite sad, but because for most people university now = massive debt, if we support/encourage an application when the student stands no real chance of passing then we are saddling them with the millstone of that debt needlessly.

You only have to look at some of the posts on student forums to see that many are not suited to University, yet someone, somewhere, has allowed them to believe that they are.

When I was at school, it seemed that university was the only option. No mention of apprecticeships and the like. I only found out about NVQs (as opposed to A Levels) because my mum has done a few.

poet123

Oldernotwiser wrote: »

Even more difficult if the HE course is run by your own college and they're keen to get more bums on seats!

you are right, progression is the word on the lips of all the SMT, regardless of aptitude, or suitability in many cases. Then it becomes "retention";)

bestpud

poet123 wrote: »

It can be quite sad, but because for most people university now = massive debt, if we support/encourage an application when the student stands no real chance of passing then we are saddling them with the millstone of that debt needlessly.

You only have to look at some of the posts on student forums to see that many are not suited to University, yet someone, somewhere, has allowed them to believe that they are.

Yes, I can see it's better in the long run but it must be hard on the student if they've struggled through school and have started to believe they can climb the academic ladder despite that.

Even harder to get there and fall flat on their face, I know.

The_One_Who

poet123 wrote: »

It can be quite sad, but because for most people university now = massive debt, if we support/encourage an application when the student stands no real chance of passing then we are saddling them with the millstone of that debt needlessly.

You only have to look at some of the posts on student forums to see that many are not suited to University, yet someone, somewhere, has allowed them to believe that they are.

Yep. University is now the 'only' way. Leaving school and getting a job or an apprenticeship is for those who didn't so anything at school. If you get decent grades and decide to do either of those it, people will continually comment on the 'waste' that it is.

I hear all the time that everyone has the 'right' to go to university. Yes, okay, you have the right to go but only if you are academically suited to it. I don't necessarily mean getting straight As, because the school system isn't really a good measure of how someone will do in a university environment.

Indie_Kid

The_One_Who wrote: »

I hear all the time that everyone has the 'right' to go to university. Yes, okay, you have the right to go but only if you are academically suited to it. I don't necessarily mean getting straight As, because the school system isn't really a good measure of how someone will do in a university environment.

University is a privilege, imo.

Isis_Black

welll i have been very sucessful in my college course i have got overall distictions, and i did this even with my depression so it has shown me that i can do the work and that i can do university, yes there will be many who would love to put people like me down at every minute but to me that seems like a bit of sour grapes that they cannot accept that someone who isnt "normal" can do the work.
mybe it is a privilege but it is a privilege to anyone, who can do the work requireds no matter what, to get into university in the first place.

bestpud

Isis_Black wrote: »

welll i have been very sucessful in my college course i have got overall distictions, and i did this even with my depression so it has shown me that i can do the work and that i can do university, yes there will be many who would love to put people like me down at every minute but to me that seems like a bit of sour grapes that they cannot accept that someone who isnt "normal" can do the work.
mybe it is a privilege but it is a privilege to anyone, who can do the work requireds no matter what, to get into university in the first place.

Well done and best wishes for uni. :T

I don't think it's about putting people down tbh; more about questioning the type of help offered. I guess that is questioning the system and not the person iyswim?

Also, some people won't make it and that's not about disability so don't take it personally.

Isis_Black

bestpud wrote: »

Well done and best wishes for uni. :T

I don't think it's about putting people down tbh; more about questioning the type of help offered. I guess that is questioning the system and not the person iyswim?

Also, some people won't make it and that's not about disability so don't take it personally.

oh god it wasn`t aimed at anyone here really, more about people i ahve been round in my life making comments like i will amount to nothing and they will always be better than me, hehehe i can jsut laugh in their faces now and jsut say look at me now and look at you, youare still stuck in the same little poxy job with your little click and here is me making the most out of the opportunites that have been opened to me and i am going to do the best i can to make the life of myself and my family that much better than it has been in the past!
Thank you very much for the well wishes :T