Why I don't bother

jdturk

Quiet_One wrote: »

Sorry I disagree there may be fewer jobs and more applications but that is still no excuse JDTurk if we take the time to apply then the least they can do is let us know the outcome.

How hard is it to send an email to everyone unsuccesful in the job and thats a click of a button... and at the end of the day that should be done by the companies HR and I still say they are 'Lazy' it simply leaves the person applying for the job with a bad taste in their mouth about the company after there ordeal.

We'll have to agree to disagree, I have had to employ someone and had 80 applicants for the job, there is no way I am spending copious amount of time replying to every single one whether it be by post or email.....its not great but thats the way it is because I have more important things to be doing.

However if someone randomly drops their cv of I will reply because its only one.

ebeneezer_2

Has anybody reviewed your CV? It may be that you are an ideal candidate but are just not presenting your capabilities correctly to attract attention?
I have re-written mine umpteen times and have really benefitted from using books on how to write a good CV and taking tips from friends CVs.
It's hard to keep positive when you don't even get acknowledgement, never mind feedback, but if you are a good candidate you will find success, you may just need a little assistance in marketing yourself against the competition so that you get that opportunity to make a face to face good impression.
Good luck in your endeavours.

dickydonkin

I am currently doing casual work waiting for the opportunity to get back into my line of work which the recession has hit hard.

My employer understands the situation and is aware that should I get a full time job in my field - I am gone. The situation works well for both of us, however, what is relevant to this thread is that I got this work by sending out a speculative enquiry directly to the relevant person.

As for job applications and responses (or lack of them) from employers, I simply don't expect any, don't lose sleep over it and quite frankly, couldn't care less, but if I do get one, then all well and good - but come on - be honest - when you do get a response telling you that you have been unsuccessful - what do you do with it?

Let me guess. Have a little curse and swear, tear it up and throw it in the bin?

If you are not considered for interview, then what is the point of receiving a response telling you that? - it might make you feel more cr&p than you already are!

I can understand some peoples view that it is discourteous or bad manners by not sending out a response, but I just don't worry about it.

It is common knowledge that every job vacancy is over subscribed with applicants and it is just unrealistic to respond to everyone who has not been considered for a particular role.

It is also likely that many HR departments will have had their manpower reduced and their workload increased and replying to hundreds of letters is a labour intensive, costly and in my opinion anyway, a pointless exercise.

hubb

Common courtesy. Even if I didn't get the job I would still like to have confirmation.

It's all well and good saying "stay positive" but when you have low self esteem and suffer depression it's all the more harder. Of course this doesn't get in the way of my abilities to do a job. It's not chronic or anything but bad enough compound this problem.

ciare

hubb wrote: »

Common courtesy. Even if I didn't get the job I would still like to have confirmation.

It's all well and good saying "stay positive" but when you have low self esteem and suffer depression it's all the more harder. Of course this doesn't get in the way of my abilities to do a job. It's not chronic or anything but bad enough compound this problem.

Totally agree with you.

I have been for a few interviews, and even though was told I would know either way, didn't hear anything.

I also suffer from depression, and self esteem, and not hearing about jobs which I have taken my time and effort to attend, does give me a little knock back. I know I am capable of the job,but just wish I could show them I can.

Truegho

Hi Hubb. Read your post with interest and must say that I certainly share great empathy with you here. I too am absolutely FED UP with sending off countless CVs to online jobsites, and not even getting a reply. The whole employment situation in this country at the moment STINKS, and is very, very depressing.

Contemplating starting up my own business in an attempt to extract myself some way out of this demoralising rut, I was interested to read your comment that the DWP offer £200 to start up your own business. I would like to know more about this scheme (e.g. how do you come offf JSA and still manage, do you still need to sign on etc.).

I would also be very interested in any other schemes or help offered by DWP towards starting your own business.

Thanks

hubb wrote: »

Well, I did get JSA until it ran out in October when I just got my stamps paid. I then opted for the DWP offer of £200 a month for the first 4 months of business if you came off JSA and worked self employed. I am currently doing just that, working hard on my own music/Photography but I do need a part time income.

mtc95

I agree with what you say hubb and I'm in the same poisition. What I've been told, and my experience backs it up, is that sitting at the PC emailing out CVs and applications to agencies and job sites is not a very effective approach.

You should try and do as much networking as possible, talking to ex-colleagues, friends, relatives etc who are working to see if any of them may know of vacancies or potential vancancies that are not necessarily advertised.

It may also be worth checking out companies that you would like to work for and just contacting them directly (phone or send your CV by post - to a named person if possible).

Whether applying direct or through an agent, I've found it's better to phone and talk to them first if you can, rather than just emailing, as it is somehow more effective when they can relate to you as a "real" person.

If you havn't already done so, it's worth putting together a web page showing your work if that's possible and including a link to it from your applications.

Hope that helps. I'm still job-hunting myself but I have at least obtained a few interviews following a more direct approach. Good Luck.

jdturk

ciare wrote: »

I have been for a few interviews, and even though was told I would know either way, didn't hear anything.

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If you are told this then I'd also be understandably annoyed if there was no reply, however if they say nothing I would expect to not have been progressed if I had not heard anything after 3 weeks

vaporate

Oldernotwiser wrote: »

That's a reasonable and understandable decision to make, unless you're claiming JSA.

Hardly.

OP, think of it as claiming back your tax money during employment.

Moreover, it is pointless out there at the moment. Application forms are pointless when your life history is on your CV anyway.

Furthermore, I can totally understand where the OP is coming from. It's like there are no jobs. Maybe there isn't. It is like a endless cycle of filling in application forms....nothing, again, again and yes you guessed it...again.

(Waits for someone to mention taking till work now LMAO...)

moggylover

jdturk wrote: »

Again back when times were good and when companies were getting only a few applications acknowledging them all was easy however in the last 2 years with less and less jobs more and more people apply and it's not lazyness but why should companies pay someone to literally spend days sending out refusal letters and costing them alot of money in terms of time and wages etc

That really is a complete joke of a response! I worked in personell at ICI some 35 years ago and even then we sometimes got 200 applications for a single job. We only had typewriters in those days, but we still managed to reply to every single one of those! It meant using a standard letter run off (rather painstakingly actually) on a Gestetner and then filling in the individual details and sending them off.

With the advent of computers this would take a few hours, not days, for competent staff. However, I'm perfectly certain that you will find other excuses for your ignorance and arrogance in ignoring the applications you get:D