And now they want to weigh my rubbish?

raebhoop

There will be fights over people using others bins...fly tipping everywhere...and black sacks in bins in the parks etc.
What do you expect from politicians?...not a brain cell to share amongst most of 'em.

sarahg1969

A council local to us has put chips in bins, but they say this is to enable them to trace lost and stolen bins only, and not so that they can keep tabs on what people throw away. They go on to say that they couldn't do this anyway, even if they wanted to, because they have no way of reading the chips. In that case, how do they help to trace lost and stolen bins??!!

Mankysteve

peter_the_piper wrote: »

cheaper than chips.

These days micro chips are so cheap its properly cheaper than the paint. You already pay for the weight of Rubbish you dispose off. Just that at the moment everyone spreads the cost over everyone else. So you have foot the bill of the lazy sod down the road who won't recycle. If they took the part of tax we spend on landfill out of the council tax and a increase in recycle facilities I would fully support paying by weight. Unfortunately I don't really believe we'd see a tax cut, but it would be a good encouragement for supermarkets to reduce there packaging.

Fire_Fox

Storck wrote: »

Flats are usually not included in plans like this as they pay a service charge to have their bins emptied. I live in a block and we do not even get an recycling facilities.

Are you sure your service charge covers bins being emptied? Mine certainly doesn't and I'd be outraged if I had to pay for the same service twice (through council tax as well). You should have been provided with recycling collection of two types of waste by the end of last year, but some councils appear to be making excuses. I quoted the legislation at my council and they didn't like it at all!

"The government aim for a total cut of landfill to 75% of its 199 5 levels by 2010, in line with the EU Landfill Directive (1999). Household waste contributes nearly 10% of all waste, the majority of which is land filled. Therefore there is a high incentive for the government and local authorities to encourage recycling. The household waste recycling act (2003) states that all local authorities must provide doorstep collection facilities for households to recycle at least two major forms of waste by 2010 (i.e. paper and plastic, or paper and glass, etc.)."
http://www.sustainablestuff.co.uk/RecyclingHouseholdWaste.html

Storck

Fire_Fox wrote: »

Are you sure your service charge covers bins being emptied? Mine certainly doesn't and I'd be outraged if I had to pay for the same service twice (through council tax as well). You should have been provided with recycling collection of two types of waste by the end of last year, but some councils appear to be making excuses. I quoted the legislation at my council and they didn't like it at all!

"The government aim for a total cut of landfill to 75% of its 199 5 levels by 2010, in line with the EU Landfill Directive (1999). Household waste contributes nearly 10% of all waste, the majority of which is land filled. Therefore there is a high incentive for the government and local authorities to encourage recycling. The household waste recycling act (2003) states that all local authorities must provide doorstep collection facilities for households to recycle at least two major forms of waste by 2010 (i.e. paper and plastic, or paper and glass, etc.)."
http://www.sustainablestuff.co.uk/RecyclingHouseholdWaste.html

It definitely includes waste collection as it is done by a contractor and not the usual council vans. It annoys me that I have to pay twice for it.

jackieb

I already have 2 bins. I didn't steal the other one though. I bought it. I recycle, but my two small boxes (I got another one from the council when I asked for one), which are meant to hold everything for a household of 6 for a fortnight, isn't adequate. I often have to make trips to the recycling centre to empty them before the fortnight is up.

Tell manufacturers to stop using so much packaging. I bought 4 sets of single bedding and 4 pillows last week, and the packaging alone was enough to fill one of my wheelie bins.

Butterfly_Brain

trisontana wrote: »

this from the mailwatch website:-

the chips are for no other reason than allowing the council to identify the individual bin.

the chips link a bin to an individual house. So that if they get stolen, or somebody is wrongly using someone else's bin, this can be identified.

the councils basically have problems with bins being stolen, and households using more than one bin. As in, stealing other people's.

the chips allow these bins to be found, and these people be identified, when it happens.

that really is it.

chris james
kingswood borough council (bristol)

I smell .....................bull s**t

ploder

"The government aim for a total cut of landfill to 75% of its 1995 levels by 2010, in line with the EU Landfill Directive (1999)......

Now we are getting closer to the truth. My opinion is that the more draconian schemes are being considered because the Landfill directive actually imposes large fines on those who do not meet its requirements. Not even the BBC seems to be highlighting this issue. That is not to say that recycling isn't important and we shouldn't be doing it, but the impetus is the stick from the EU and once again highlights how our system is being hollowed-out and becoming a mere shell for less accountable EU law and bureaucracy.

this from the mailwatch website:-

the chips are for no other reason than allowing the council to identify the individual bin.

the chips link a bin to an individual house. So that if they get stolen, or somebody is wrongly using someone else's bin, this can be identified.

the councils basically have problems with bins being stolen, and households using more than one bin. As in, stealing other people's.

the chips allow these bins to be found, and these people be identified, when it happens.

that really is it.

chris james
kingswood borough council (bristol)

I do not trust this either. Once they have got their 'foot in the door' and installed the chips the scheme can easily be changed into one that imposes penalties instead of mere bin identification/incentives to recycle without any further co-operation. Bottom line: don't let them do it!

kosmo65

tripled wrote: »

Personally, I think if it was properly implemented, it would be a good idea:

• Lockable bins
• Proper weekly kerbside recycling collections, which can take all products (e.g. at the moment I don't have a glass collection)
• Clear descriptions on all packaging so it is easy to know what to do with it
• Force manufacturers to reduce excess packaging and use recyclable packaging
• Local points for disposing of electricals, batteries, household appliances, etc
• The taxes levied on anyone who goes over 'quota' used entirely towards combatting fly-tipping, burning of toxic materials (e.g. plastic), if anything left overused for local environmental works and other good causes

The problem is, the councils will most likely bring in a half-arsed system which won't make it easier to recycle because they can then grab the revenue as another stealth tax.

:T just what i was thinking just before i got to your post

i have 4 paper recycling bins
2 garden waste bins
1 household bin
food waste goes in the dog- cats- chickens if my four kids leave any waste

peter_the_piper

can I suggest an addition to above.
No packaging to be used that cannot be recycled. I get lots of plastic, numbered 3 and above and none of it can be recycled.