Nice people thread 2 - now even nicer

lemonjelly

Davesnave wrote: »

Trapped nerves are a real bind. Not sure which I believe in more; acupuncture or exercises.

No contest. Exercise.

I had acupuncture for my back. Made no odds whatsoever. Exercise is the best/only option for me.

harryhound

PasturesNew wrote: »

Here it is (link was grabbed from google streetview, so it might even work OK straight off)
http://maps.google.co.uk/maps?f=d&source=s_d&saddr=Threemilestone,+Langarth+Park+and+Ride+(N-bound)&daddr=50.273187,-5.103407+to:Truro,+Cornwall+TR1+3UP,+UK&hl=en&geocode=FTj9_gIdEN-x_yHe0ErJF3kHEQ%3B%3BFR4H_wIdQkey_ykbUbh_mhdrSDE49tIklMHPgg&mra=dpe&mrcr=0&mrsp=1&sz=15&via=1&sll=50.270224,-5.10375&sspn=0.009738,0.030642&ie=UTF8&ll=50.272885,-5.104523&spn=0,0.245132&z=12&layer=c&cbll=50.272696,-5.104565&panoid=Ad7Rnp0cWhOyS5onOvBgww&cbp=12,235.5,,0,2.61

It seems to have turned into a smiley icon in the middle there ... the beggar. I think I disabled that from occurring now.

I was trying to go north of there, not round in a circle!

In spite of getting lost about half a dozen times along Trinnievinnie Lane (or what ever it was called) and having to do a three point turn in the stone farm yard and having a google at the tall detached house and wondering why people in/move two Cornwall countryside and build bungalows from a Frinton retirement suburb; I recon I did that journey in less than 5 minutes. You should have seen me go over those corners covered with bracken.:rotfl:

tomterm8

lemonjelly wrote: »

No contest. Exercise.

I had acupuncture for my back. Made no odds whatsoever. Exercise is the best/only option for me.

Exercise is best, but it is quite important to use a none impact exercise, I think. Don't laugh, I think the best method is to walk up and down a swimming pool, although you will look a twit.

Lots of people also swear by Osteopathy.

wageslave

PasturesNew wrote: »

No. French and German at school, to O level.
Russian I joined an evening class, that was then cancelled as not enough people were on it, so I found another one and joined that - and that closed down too.
The rest I taught myself bits and pieces, from library books - so no idea really what the languages sounded like (I didn't have a tape recorder, not access to a radio or tapes).

I can still say Hello, how are you, my name is ... goodbye in Russian. And count to about 3. I did that about 30 years ago.

That's pretty much how latin is taught, no one really knows how it was spoken. W. Sidney Allens Vox Latina is usually used as the model of "restored" pronunciation but it is all guesswork really.

I imagine we have mangled Latin about as much as you mangled Russian. Be interesting to see if a native speaker could decipher anything you were saying. I have often wondered if we could converse intelligibly with an ancient Roman....

tomterm8

At least in theory, I don't see why there should be a standard pronunciation for Latin... given the distances involved, and the time to traverse them, I would have thought that it is likely one Roman would have found it hard to understand the latin of someone on the other side of the empire. Like Australia, American and British english 150 years ago. The idea of standard pronunciation really started to occur with broadcast, trains and aeroplanes. If you listen to accents from even forty years ago, they are often very much stronger than today.

wageslave

tomterm8 wrote: »

At least in theory, I don't see why there should be a standard pronunciation for Latin... given the distances involved, and the time to traverse them, I would have thought that it is likely one Roman would have found it hard to understand the latin of someone on the other side of the empire. Like Australia, American and British english 150 years ago. The idea of standard pronunciation really started to occur with broadcast, trains and aeroplanes. If you listen to accents from even forty years ago, they are often very much stronger than today.

Absolutely, many people who speak latin now don't use the restored pronunciation and don't want to. How latin was actually spoken is the subject of prolonged debate amongst enthusiasts and scholars alike.

The proletariat must have had an entirely different accent from the patrician classes but the truth is we don't really know how any of them sounded. We can make educated guesses (and some eminent scholars have made some very educated guesses) but that is what it is, guesswork.

PN teaching herself a language entirely from the written word is more or less what happens with us and latin. I would be really interested in how close she got.

Davesnave

I had my first detention for Latin, in the second week at my grammar school. It was the first of many.

Occasionally, I used to wonder how knowing latin sentences like, 'We shall lay waste the lands of the barbarians with our spears and arrows' would help me in my future life, but as most of us in those days subscribed to the innoculation theory of education (they give it to you, so you have it, and then you pass it on) these thoughts were probably rare.

It was only much later that I began to find those lessons vaguely useful, when using plant names, knowing, say, what lay behind, Verbena hastata.

tomterm8

Personally, I have never even looked at a latin book, and have no plans to do so. Ever. French is bad enough. Mercy. Or possibly, Mon Dieu (if I can work out how to spell it).

wageslave

Davesnave wrote: »

I had my first detention for Latin, in the second week at my grammar school. It was the first of many.

Occasionally, I used to wonder how knowing latin sentences like, 'We shall lay waste the lands of the barbarians with our spears and arrows' would help me in my future life, but as most of us in those days subscribed to the innoculation theory of education (they give it to you, so you have it, and then you pass it on) these thoughts were probably rare.

It was only much later that I began to find those lessons vaguely useful, when using plant names, knowing, say, what lay behind, Verbena hastata.

I was exactly the opposite, latin lessons were my second favourite thing at school. I was blessed with an extremely good teacher.

She told us to picture a door, on the other side of it was all of the roman empire which was inhabited by the most innovative and interesting people who had ever lived. We could never open that door but if we paid attention and ate all our vegetables we could press our ear against it and listen.

There is a lot to be said for a catholic education;)

treliac

carolt wrote: »

Don't you dare tell that to my 10 year old!

Their official bedtime is 7.30pm - for all 3 - or we'd never get little one into bed...

But the bigger 2 actually read/talk for about another 1.5-2 hours more. I'd be weeping if they were still up at 10.30, though...
:eek:

I'm with you all the way carolt. My post was thoroughly tongue in cheek and a social comment on the degradation of contemporary society.


(See, I'm trying to compete with wageslave, who's gone all posh and on about

proletariat must have had an entirely different accent from the patrician classes

'n stuff. )