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which party protected our homes more in recession?

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  • chucky
    chucky Posts: 15,170 Forumite
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    Forcing house prices downwards??? In the previous busts, nobody forced house prices down.
    ok. fair point. as you can see times are little bit different now.

    how about allow prices to fall too much?
    does that sound better?
  • chucky
    chucky Posts: 15,170 Forumite
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    Kohoutek wrote: »
    It's not a question of allowing it to happen, it's the absence of any solutions. The government could make more loans but I think it's very unlikely given by 2012-2014 they'll be reducing the deficit and looking to unwind the bank bailout guarantees etc too.

    I'm sure the government accepts that protecting the housing market is important, but not at the expense of our currency (QE + ZIRP) and reducing the deficit in the future (continuing bailouts and guarantees like the CML one).
    so because there is no solution for something that needs to be solved by 2012-2014 now - there isn't going to be a solution. great logic.

    i'm looking to go on a 3-month holiday in 2012, i don't know the itinerary yet. does that mean i'm not going to go...
  • Kohoutek
    Kohoutek Posts: 2,861 Forumite
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    chucky wrote: »
    so because there is no solution for something that needs to be solved by 2012-2014 now - there isn't going to be a solution. great logic.

    It's not me that's worrying, it's the Council of Mortgage Lenders.

    They can't foresee any commercial or retail deposits replacing the government scheme, even with 2 years to prepare.

    Ring them up and tell them where to procure the money...because they don't know.
  • The_White_Horse
    The_White_Horse Posts: 3,315 Forumite
    Dan: wrote: »
    lifes not fair mate.

    that is my point, and what labour fail to realise.
  • ninky_2
    ninky_2 Posts: 5,872 Forumite
    Forcing house prices downwards??? In the previous busts, nobody forced house prices down.

    but government policy does influence surely?
    Those who will not reason, are bigots, those who cannot, are fools, and those who dare not, are slaves. - Lord Byron
  • chucky
    chucky Posts: 15,170 Forumite
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    Kohoutek wrote: »
    It's not me that's worrying, it's the Council of Mortgage Lenders.

    They can't foresee any commercial or retail deposits replacing the government scheme, even with 2 years to prepare.

    Ring them up and tell them where to procure the money...because they don't know.
    i understand the issue with the CML - it's a bit of a political game with them as they are shouting about this because their member don't want the extra capital requirements that will be implemented. which as you say if they are implemented it will reduce the amount of money that they can lend.

    the capital requirments are going to be watered down or implemented gradually and not at the level that are being shouted about otherwise it will freeze the money markets again. it's just not going to happen.

    you've taken the worst case scenario and expecting it to happen without any other options.
  • kabayiri
    kabayiri Posts: 22,740 Forumite
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    ninky wrote: »
    but government policy does influence surely?
    The state owning a major chunk of the retail banks influences lending and reposession policy I would suggest...

    The Conservative lot didn't have this in their armoury, it's true.
  • MissMoneypenny
    MissMoneypenny Posts: 5,324 Forumite
    ninky wrote: »
    but government policy does influence surely?

    I doubt that house prices will be a governments number one priority considering what an uphill task the next government have.

    Boom and bust seems to be part of the British culture. Some people win and some people lose.
    RENTING? Have you checked to see that your landlord has permission from their mortgage lender to rent the property? If not, you could be thrown out with very little notice.
    Read the sticky on the House Buying, Renting & Selling board.


  • Malcolm.
    Malcolm. Posts: 1,079 Forumite
    Kohoutek wrote: »
    I'm sure the government accepts that protecting the housing market is important, but not at the expense of our currency (QE + ZIRP) and reducing the deficit in the future (continuing bailouts and guarantees like the CML one).

    To the contrary young padawan. One might assume the government wants sterling to devalue.
  • ninky_2
    ninky_2 Posts: 5,872 Forumite
    I doubt that house prices will be a governments number one priority considering what an uphill task the next government have.

    er, i think they'll be pretty up there. a severe hpc would impact on every area of the economy / society.
    Those who will not reason, are bigots, those who cannot, are fools, and those who dare not, are slaves. - Lord Byron
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