Sick of it

reallytinyamy

sarahg1969 wrote: »

You didn't have to pay anyway.

But you also don't need to use a disabled bay just because you have a child with you. Really, you don't. Just be a bit more careful, like fat people and people with very big cars have to be. And just like you would have to be if you parked in a car park that didn't have P&C bays.

~Like I said, I made the decision based on the fact there were loads of free disabled spaces and there still were when I came back to the car so I had obviously not put anybody out!

John22

Thank you. Coupon Mad I will ignore it

peter_the_piper

This whole thread on bays would be null and void if the car park baye were wide enough in the first place. There would then be no need of disabled and parent/child bays.

reallytinyamy

peter_the_piper wrote: »

This whole thread on bays would be null and void if the car park baye were wide enough in the first place. There would then be no need of disabled and parent/child bays.

absolutely!!!

heretolearn_2

That's so true. The multi storey where I have to park for work scares me to death - the bays are SO narrow it's almost impossible not to bang the next car when you open the door. (and I'm not that fat :-) ).

Re the OPs original point, I do kinda agree with him/her, to a degree. This is the first time I've read this part of the forum, and yes, lots of people have made mistakes and so on and so on, and we've all pushed our luck before with parking, so I don't blame anyone for trying (bar nicking disabled spaces).

But...there also seems to be an attitude that if it is a private car park, they shouldn't have any rules and let anyone park there at any time for as long as they like. I find that totally unreasonable. All private car parks are there for a reason. They are not charities. You have no 'right' to park there. If you abuse them, then I think you should pay the penalties. If someone parked on your drive without permission you wouldn't be happy...it's the same principle, even if the scale is different.

One firm I worked at on an industrial park had only 6 car park spaces - 4 for staff, 2 for visitors, clearly marked. There were about 10 staff so if you weren't early, you had to find somewhere else, ok no problem. But people from other firms felt it was ok for them to park in our visitor spaces and !!!!!! off all day to work, or to visit another outlet. Would you say that's ok?

A friend of mine owns a shop and she only has 2 spaces for customers to pull off the road. Those are her private spaces. She still finds cars parked there - so she loses out on custom (it's the sort of shop you just pop into for 5 minutes). Is that ok to do?

bargepole

heretolearn wrote: »

... But...there also seems to be an attitude that if it is a private car park, they shouldn't have any rules and let anyone park there at any time for as long as they like. I find that totally unreasonable. All private car parks are there for a reason. They are not charities. You have no 'right' to park there. If you abuse them, then I think you should pay the penalties. If someone parked on your drive without permission you wouldn't be happy...it's the same principle, even if the scale is different. ...

I don't think any reasonable person would argue that you shouldn't respect the rules of private car parks. But what is unreasonable is the way PPCs try to enforce those "rules" by pretending they have some sort of statutory backing, and trying to fleece people for disproportionately excessive sums for overstaying a few minutes, or parking slightly over the line. Even worse are their crude attempts to intimidate people into paying, by threatening bailiffs, damaged credit ratings, etc., when it's all just hot air in reality.

Someone parking on your drive is trespass; a completely different scenario from a publicly accessible space where you are invited to park.