Who loses with a Tory victory?

wageslave

amcluesent wrote: »

>So who is going to be on the end of the Tory austerity package?<

Hopefully all those who've never put anything into this society but know all about their 'rights' to take, take, take.

So line up you feral yoofs, 'seekers' of every colour, illegals on student visas, chav mums and their bast*ard menagerie on the sink-estate, public-sector pen-pushing numpties in quangos, dole scroungers, IB con-artists, 'travellers', everyone damanding compo for being 'offended', useless bizzies, 'elf'n'safety jobsworths, everyone at the BBC, yer ranting islamics, etc. etc.

In fact, pretty much everyone feather-bedded by Clown at the tax-payers expense deserves to be on the end of dam*ed good dose of austerity.

Wishful thinking sweetheart.

I will take issue with one group you have mentioned.

Travellers dont claim benefits.

Explain to me how they will suffer?

StevieJ

lostinrates wrote: »

OK, well, taking point 1, the public sector...some of the figures I've seen bandied around here include one that 50% of wealth generation is public sector (different to % earning, but I can't rememebr how this was recently defined here.)

My position on this point would be that if this is not brought into a more realistic proportion to money earned, generated from private sector, then 100% of public sector and private sector might well pay the price!

The point of this thread is will public sector workers see it that way? or will they be a major anti tory vote when push comes to shove (I don't disagree that Labour may do exactly the same as the tories but it is perception that counts at an election).

ukcarper

aelitaman wrote: »

Pensioners - Why worse off The Tory proposal is to re-establish the link between pensions and wage infation so they should be better off. Also a lot of these pensioners own homes and more will be better off with higher inheritanace tax, certainly none will be worse off.

They are just matching Labours plans on wages link and both will probably not be able to afford to do it. No matter how high the inheritance tax threshold is it won’t help pensioners their children yes but not pensioner.

CLAPTON

aelitaman wrote: »

Pensioners - Why worse off The Tory proposal is to re-establish the link between pensions and wage infation so they should be better off. Also a lot of these pensioners own homes and more will be better off with higher inheritanace tax, certainly none will be worse off.

As a matter of fact that's already a committed labour policy although not until 2012 (as I recall)

aelitaman

ukcarper wrote: »

They are just matching Labours plans on wages link and both will probably not be able to afford to do it. No matter how high the inheritance tax threshold is it won’t help pensioners their children yes but not pensioner.

I agree with the IHT thing, I worded badley. The pensioners will not be better off ut it is a penioer vote winner.

Generali

Public sector (inc banks) = 6,093,000 link
Pensioners (ie those that qualify for a state pension) = 11,000,000
Adults for whom benefits comprise 100% of household income = 4,300,000*

I would imagine well over 70% of the adult population receive benefits of one sort or another. That's the great thing about this kind of statist corporatism that I bang on about to no good effect; it builds in a majority for itself.









*Daily Mail statistic.

aelitaman

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StevieJ

Generali wrote: »

Public sector (inc banks) = 6,093,000 link
Pensioners (ie those that qualify for a state pension) = 11,000,000
Adults for whom benefits comprise 100% of household income = 4,300,000*

I would imagine well over 70% of the adult population receive benefits of one sort or another. That's the great thing about this kind of statist corporatism that I bang on about to no good effect; it builds in a majority for itself.



*Daily Mail statistic.

Thanks Gen exactly the point I was alluding to for discussion.

StevieJ

ukcarper wrote: »

They are just matching Labours plans on wages link and both will probably not be able to afford to do it. No matter how high the inheritance tax threshold is it won’t help pensioners their children yes but not pensioner.

The way it is going it will probably be cheaper than linking to RPI

StevieJ

aelitaman wrote: »

I agree with the IHT thing, I worded badley. The pensioners will not be better off ut it is a penioer vote winner.

Worded even worse

Another quote from that article, still not convinced?

Mr Willetts declined to be drawn on any specific policy recommendations, saying he shared the Conservative party view. But he said it was clear baby boomers needed to make sacrifices. “My view is that boomers are not so selfish that they will not make sacrifices.”