Who loses with a Tory victory?

StevieJ

So who is going to be on the end of the Tory austerity package?

Public workers for sure - Pay freeze and reduced pension rights

Pensioners - Not quite sure what but they sound like they are planning something big

People on the social and IB and tax credits - Nothing so sure that this group of people will be the brunt of the Tory spending cuts.

Anyone care to put an electoral % on each of the above groups, I guess these calculations are being done in Tory central office as we speak.

I should imagine the Labour attack dogs will be homing in on the above groups over the next two to three months.

aelitaman

What you seem to be missing is that the Tories have said there needs to be an austerity package and Darling has said there needs to be an austerity package. There is no difference in the packages apart from the Tories say start now and Darling says next year is the time to start.

Then there is McMental, when not abusing staff and women he is of the belief that we can just carry on spending and borrowing and spending some more.

amcluesent

>So who is going to be on the end of the Tory austerity package?<

Hopefully all those who've never put anything into this society but know all about their 'rights' to take, take, take.

So line up you feral yoofs, 'seekers' of every colour, illegals on student visas, chav mums and their bast*ard menagerie on the sink-estate, public-sector pen-pushing numpties in quangos, dole scroungers, IB con-artists, 'travellers', everyone damanding compo for being 'offended', useless bizzies, 'elf'n'safety jobsworths, everyone at the BBC, yer ranting islamics, etc. etc.

In fact, pretty much everyone feather-bedded by Clown at the tax-payers expense deserves to be on the end of dam*ed good dose of austerity.

StevieJ

aelitaman wrote: »

What you seem to be missing is that the Tories have said there needs to be an austerity package and Darling has said there needs to be an austerity package. There is no difference in the packages apart from the Tories say start now and Darling says next year is the time to start.

Then there is McMental, when not abusing staff and women he is of the belief that we can just carry on spending and borrowing and spending some more.

So there is a difference then, apart from the fact the austerity will come from different areas depending who is elected e;g inheritance tax, tax credits, higher taxes for the HR tax payers. it is true that Labour plans will effect those highlighted groups just a question of how much compared to the Tories.

aelitaman

StevieJ wrote: »

So there is a difference then, apart from the fact the austerity will come from different areas depending who is elected e;g inheritance tax, tax credits, higher taxes for the HR tax payers. it is true that Labour plans will effect those highlighted groups just a question of how much compared to the Tories.

At the moment one party is definately lying. Labour. They say no cuts till 2011 and then cut the university budget by 500million.

So students have definately been hit as well as Univeristy staff under Labour. Would they be under the Tories we do not know yet.

StevieJ

aelitaman wrote: »

At the moment one party is definately lying. Labour. They say no cuts till 2011 and then cut the university budget by 500million.

So students have definately been hit as well as Univeristy staff under Labour. Would they be under the Tories we do not know yet.

I don't think they say no cuts just no recession inducing cuts.

Would they be under the Tories we do not know :rotfl:

aelitaman

StevieJ wrote: »

I don't think they say no cuts just no recession inducing cuts.

Would they be under the Tories we do not know :rotfl:

What is certain is that private sector tax payers will be better off under the Tories and treated with utter contempt by Labour yet again.

Radiantsoul

Apart from some flowery language neither party has precisely produced detailed policies for the next few years so it is fairly hard to tell.
It might be nice for both parties to believe there is a lot of fat than can be cut from public services without Joe Public knowing I am not so sure it will be that easy.

ukcarper

amcluesent wrote: »

>So who is going to be on the end of the Tory austerity package?<

Hopefully all those who've never put anything into this society but know all about their 'rights' to take, take, take.

So line up you feral yoofs, 'seekers' of every colour, illegals on student visas, chav mums and their bast*ard menagerie on the sink-estate, public-sector pen-pushing numpties in quangos, dole scroungers, IB con-artists, 'travellers', everyone damanding compo for being 'offended', useless bizzies, 'elf'n'safety jobsworths, everyone at the BBC, yer ranting islamics, etc. etc.

In fact, pretty much everyone feather-bedded by Clown at the tax-payers expense deserves to be on the end of dam*ed good dose of austerity.

I'm not so sure they will though. They will probably attack low paid workers by freezing minimum wage and personal allowances so they can remove 50% tax band

CLAPTON

rhetoric apart, history is a poor teacher about which party actually hits the state sector verses the private sector

Graham_Devon

StevieJ wrote: »

I don't think they say no cuts just no recession inducing cuts.

Would they be under the Tories we do not know :rotfl:

This is the problem Stevie.

No one knows.

No one knows whats going to happen if labour or tory win. All we do know is we CANNOT carry on as we are doing. We are spending money we do not have. We appear to be borrowing money, to pa ythe interest on borrowed money.

It's calling robbing peter to pay paul.

I can only assume with these types of threads, which accuse a party of doing something before they have done it, or we know whether they will ever do it...that this is mere scaremongering type stuff from a supporter of either party.

How can we realistically discuss something that has not happened and we do not know whether it will happen?

What we can discuss is what is happening now.

Personally, I see labour as robbing the poor anyway. All they are doing is giving them enough to survive, creating a scenaio where they can never actually get anywhere on their own. The labour system over the last decade of looking after the poor has made the poor totally dependant. The poor cannot realistically sever ties with the governments hand outs, as if they do, they lose everything.

That's certainly no way to look after a set of people IMHO.