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Co-OP and the tale of age verification

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  • edgex
    edgex Posts: 4,212 Forumite
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    UK2010 wrote: »
    But it's the same everywhere and everyone knows what ID is and isn't accpeted. You're just refusing to carry the ones you know will be taken to be awkward. Why don't you just make your life easier for yourself?

    usually they will state 'government issued'

    an MoD card is government issued
  • CWCDiver
    CWCDiver Posts: 1,820 Forumite
    Storck wrote: »

    BTW what was your ID?
    3 separate IDs
    Army ID card
    Police Warrant card and my GSZ security pass....
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  • edgex
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    UK2010 wrote: »
    I'm now 33 but during my 20's I would have been aware that I could get checked for ID for any product containing alcohol, that includes chocolates. Quite widely known isn't it or is that just me?

    I noticed you choose to leave the fact it contained wine in it out of your description!

    i used to work in the licensed trade, & never came across, or heard of anyone, who had been id'd when trying to purchase items like sauces or chocolates that may contain a small amount of alcohol, eg. xmas pud


    you can get cleaning wipes that have alcohol on them, are they also id'ing for those?
  • edgex
    edgex Posts: 4,212 Forumite
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    UK2010 wrote: »
    The sale of all products containing alcohol will be restricted by all main retailers. The even includes as I've said chocolates. The staff won't want to get into trouble. This sort of thing is also checked by mystery shoppers. The staff are going to want to protect themselves and their jobs.

    As I said judging age is a matter of perception. Your view of how old you look is unique to you, someone else might think something completely different.

    right, you keep saying this

    citation?
  • Storck
    Storck Posts: 1,890 Forumite
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    CWCDiver wrote: »
    3 separate IDs
    Army ID card
    Police Warrant card and my GSZ security pass....

    So none of them are on the acceptable form of ID for purchasing alcohol so they would be in their rights to refuse you alcohol.

    Again not saying that ID should have been asked for as I'm not sure on that.
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  • edgex
    edgex Posts: 4,212 Forumite
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    UK2010 wrote: »
    c

    http://www.tradingstandards.gov.uk/monmouthshire/link2.htm

    "[FONT=Verdana, Chicago]Confectionary containing alcohol, including liqueur chocolates"[/FONT]

    The above link states "some examples" as in it's not exclusive! Confectionary containing alcohol will be extended to food.

    Why would they not want to protect themselves when selling any product containing alcohol? It's being safe. You need to be proactive not reactive in business, surely it's like that in the army?


    why will it be 'extended to food'?
    citation?


    also, you might notice:
    Confectionary containing alcohol, including liqueur chocolates - 16 years

    where is a 16 or 17yr old to get a proof-of-age id card from?
    no photo driving licence

    do the retailers know that the age for confectionary containing alcohol is 16 & not 18?
    will they believe a CitizenCard which states that the person is over 16, when 90%+ will be for 18+?
  • UK2010
    UK2010 Posts: 373 Forumite
    edited 17 February 2010 at 4:17AM
    edgex wrote: »
    right, you keep saying this

    citation?

    Oh good you found my post with citation even though you said you've read all of them!
    edgex wrote: »
    why will it be 'extended to food'?
    citation?

    Why will it not?

    Citation?
  • Storck
    Storck Posts: 1,890 Forumite
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    edgex wrote: »
    why will it be 'extended to food'?
    citation?


    also, you might notice:
    Confectionary containing alcohol, including liqueur chocolates - 16 years

    where is a 16 or 17yr old to get a proof-of-age id card from?
    no photo driving licence

    do the retailers know that the age for confectionary containing alcohol is 16 & not 18?
    will they believe a CitizenCard which states that the person is over 16, when 90%+ will be for 18+?

    The rules are the same as for ID for alcohol, FULL driving license, passport or a card with the PASS logo. It is nice and simple, three things and nothing else.
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  • Zazen999
    Zazen999 Posts: 6,183 Forumite
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    Storck wrote: »
    The rules are the same as for ID for alcohol, FULL driving license, passport or a card with the PASS logo. It is nice and simple, three things and nothing else.

    That's great - if you were actually going out to BUY alcohol and were in your 20s.

    But he wasn't - it was a tomato-based sauce and he is older than 30.
  • peachyprice
    peachyprice Posts: 22,346 Forumite
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    UK2010 wrote: »
    c

    http://www.tradingstandards.gov.uk/monmouthshire/link2.htm

    "[FONT=Verdana, Chicago]Confectionary containing alcohol, including liqueur chocolates"[/FONT]

    The above link states "some examples" as in it's not exclusive! Confectionary containing alcohol will be extended to food.

    Why would they not want to protect themselves when selling any product containing alcohol? It's being safe. You need to be proactive not reactive in business, surely it's like that in the army?
    UK2010 wrote: »
    See above post. There's a lot more age restricted products than you might imagine. Why would they not want to cover themselves to make their system watertight?



    Again, there is NO alcohol in the sauce, they only had to read the label to ascertain this, which I'm sure the manager could have managed to do. There was nothing for them to 'protect' themselves from. Any alcohol in the red wine would have evaporated while the sauce was in the vat at Knorr.

    Liquer chocolates, and anything else containing alcohol must, by law, state the alcohol content on the label. So where's the alcohol?????
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    Water, Tomato Puree (9.7%), Onions, Red Wine (8.5%), (contains sulphite), Carrots, Tomatoes (3%), Sunflower Oil, Lactic Acid, Shallots, Corn Flour, Sherry, Garlic, Sugar, Yeast Extract, Salt, Stabiliser (Xanthan Gum), Barley Malt Extract (contains gluten), Parsley, Black Pepper, Basil, Thyme, Contains traces of celery.
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