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  • Mr_Lahey wrote: »
    Horse riders think they own the road and that is a fact.

    I'm sad that you feel that way - is there any concrete evidence to support your statement?

    I see from some of your other posts that you commented on horse riders directing the traffic. This is for safety: YOURS, the car driver coming the other way, and theirs. If the rider gives you a dirty look for going 1mph over the speed you feel they asked you to pass at, may I respectfully suggest that perhaps it was more than 1 mile faster than was safe for that situation. ;) As someone who was recently thrown from a horse who was scared by a vehicle being driven too fast for the speed limit, let alone the circumstances, I can tell you in no uncertain circumstances how frustrating it is when drivers do not understand or choose to ignore our hand signals. Again, it is for YOUR safety, as well as theirs. As a motorist with knowledge of horses, I could still easily miss a potential problem that the horse rider in front of me has spotted.
    Nothing tastes as good as riding a horse feels
  • Mr_Lahey
    Mr_Lahey Posts: 1,289 Forumite
    Norant wrote: »
    Well Lahey.


    Going by your post count and the times that you made them,i would say travelling to the kitchen and back does not count.

    Or are you one of these mobile users who think to themselves that when i get to my destination i must log in and tell it how it is all day?

    The irony in my post was that last week i travelled no further than to my work.

    But i agree, i do spend too much time on here, particularly on boring threads like this one. I'm going to bed shortly, its 1/2 term and the kids have been really tough today and im knackered. So tomorrow being a new day i will not be posting on this thread again.
    The Summer Holiday of a Lifetime
  • Mr_Lahey
    Mr_Lahey Posts: 1,289 Forumite
    I'm sad that you feel that way - is there any concrete evidence to support your statement?

    I see from some of your other posts that you commented on horse riders directing the traffic. This is for safety: YOURS, the car driver coming the other way, and theirs. If the rider gives you a dirty look for going 1mph over the speed you feel they asked you to pass at, may I respectfully suggest that perhaps it was more than 1 mile faster than was safe for that situation. ;) As someone who was recently thrown from a horse who was scared by a vehicle being driven too fast for the speed limit, let alone the circumstances, I can tell you in no uncertain circumstances how frustrating it is when drivers do not understand or choose to ignore our hand signals. Again, it is for YOUR safety, as well as theirs. As a motorist with knowledge of horses, I could still easily miss a potential problem that the horse rider in front of me has spotted.

    PM your address and ill send you some flowers.
    The Summer Holiday of a Lifetime
  • Skintslimmer
    Skintslimmer Posts: 518 Forumite
    edited 18 February 2010 at 10:12PM
    Mr_Lahey wrote: »
    PM your address and ill send you some flowers.

    Awww no need for that chum. its not very MSE now is it? Just an explaination, free to all with an internet connection, will do me. :)
    Nothing tastes as good as riding a horse feels
  • Mr_Lahey
    Mr_Lahey Posts: 1,289 Forumite
    Awww no need for that chum. its not very MSE now is it? Just an explaination, free to all with an internet commection, will do me. :)

    Im wondering on the legality of a horse rider directing traffic?

    Perhaps our lawyer friend who is 'very familiar' with the Highway code and subsequent law can inform us?
    The Summer Holiday of a Lifetime
  • tandraig
    tandraig Posts: 2,260 Forumite
    Lahey - you are pushing it mate! a horse driver signalling traffic is documented in highway code as is cyclists or motorcyclists (but i get the feeling you dont think they should be on the road so you can ignore them -or god forbid- car drivers whose cars have lost electronics. havent you read the highway code?
    you claim to be the fount of all knowledge - yet you dont even know the highway code??? so what are you the fount of all knowledge of? pratism?
  • Mr_Lahey
    Mr_Lahey Posts: 1,289 Forumite
    tandraig wrote: »
    Lahey - you are pushing it mate! a horse driver signalling traffic is documented in highway code as is cyclists or motorcyclists (but i get the feeling you dont think they should be on the road so you can ignore them -or god forbid- car drivers whose cars have lost electronics. havent you read the highway code?
    you claim to be the fount of all knowledge - yet you dont even know the highway code??? so what are you the fount of all knowledge of? pratism?

    So are you saying that a horse rider directing traffic is legal?

    I mean i honestly don't know, is it?
    The Summer Holiday of a Lifetime
  • inca_2
    inca_2 Posts: 283 Forumite
    ooh don't say that. They get crazy if you generalise about people who drive Audis. It's absolutely fine however to generalise about any other group of people who may have once upon a time caused you mild annoyance.;)

    If that post was directed at me (and I suspect it was as it was me who picked you up on generalisations about Audi drivers and said that I found it unnecessary) then you need to read my posts properly. I have supported riders on this thread and have not made any generalisations about any road users. I have been on the side of everyone accepting each other's right to be on the road and made pretty clear that I disagree with idiotic behaviour that is dangerous to themselves and riders.
  • Mr_Lahey wrote: »
    Im wondering on the legality of a horse rider directing traffic?

    Perhaps our lawyer friend who is 'very familiar' with the Highway code and subsequent law can inform us?

    I am also interested in a lawyer's take on this, and what would be the legal position of a car driver who was issued a reasonable request (e.g. to slow down or stop) by a horse rider, and they were able to comply yet ignored it, causing an accident.

    I was thinking about your little request for my address to send some flowers. You could probably get some cut price since its post-valentines day. I don't mind if they are a bit wilted. Perhaps you grow your own and don't need to spend any money at all. However I would still like to give you something in exchange. Perhaps if you PM'd me your address in exchange I could arrange for a lorryload of finest horse manure to be delivered to your doorstep? :)
    Nothing tastes as good as riding a horse feels
  • Norant wrote: »
    Very big of you Lahey.

    Everyone has a pet hate that makes them unnecessarily angry just by its very mention. Mine is people coming back with phrases like "chavalier" and "tacky mates" whenever I mention my car, making the assumptions that i'm that kind of person because i'm under 40.

    Mr Lahey's pet hate is obviously horses on the roads. Is it really worth having the argument?

    MP
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