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Plan B .... Weeping

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  • Graham_Devon
    Graham_Devon Posts: 58,560 Forumite
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    StevieJ wrote: »
    I simply implied that you can spot the Tory and of course BNP voters from their replies.

    Can spot the labourites too :)
  • treliac
    treliac Posts: 4,524 Forumite
    edited 8 February 2010 at 11:49PM
    If they can be spotted, of whichever political flavour, it's stunts like these that determine how people feel about the characters who would like to win our votes. Their orchestration looks very calculated to me.

    Spin and hype have become such an integral part of politics, they seem to think we are all to be taken in by these public tears. Grief should be private and personal. These displays smack of shallow self-pity.

    ETA: My natural tendency is towards socialism. But I don't think that's on offer from today's Labour party.

    ...
  • Kohoutek
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    treliac wrote: »
    If they can be spotted, of whichever political flavour, it's stunts like these that determine how people feel about the characters who would like to win our votes. Their orchestration looks very calculated to me.

    Spin and hype has become such an integral part of politics, they seem to think we are all to be taken in by these public tears. Grief should be private and personal. These displays smack of shallow self-pity.

    ETA: My natural tendency is towards socialism. But I don't think that's on offer from today's Labour party.

    ...

    Of course. New Labour has been mainly about spin and presentation (or outright fraud and deceit in the case of Iraq) from the beginning, literally. Remember the crowd of flag waving supporters that greeted Blair as he approached Downing Street for the first time in 1997? You might have assumed, as the media and the Labour Party presented it, that they were members of the public...in fact they were a handpicked group of hardcore New Labourites, especially 'flown in' for the occasion.

    Look at Labour's presentation of Cameron as an out-of-touch toff, which has been astonishingly effective, given that Tony Blair has a virtually identical social background - upper middle class upbringing - major public school (Blair's school is the Scottish equivalent of Eton) - Oxford.
  • StevieJ
    StevieJ Posts: 20,174 Forumite
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    Can spot the labourites too :)

    What about Liberals etc icon7.gif
    'Just think for a moment what a prospect that is. A single market without barriers visible or invisible giving you direct and unhindered access to the purchasing power of over 300 million of the worlds wealthiest and most prosperous people' Margaret Thatcher
  • StevieJ
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    treliac wrote: »
    If they can be spotted, of whichever political flavour, it's stunts like these that determine how people feel about the characters who would like to win our votes. Their orchestration looks very calculated to me.

    .

    I think you have already decided where your X is going icon7.gif
    'Just think for a moment what a prospect that is. A single market without barriers visible or invisible giving you direct and unhindered access to the purchasing power of over 300 million of the worlds wealthiest and most prosperous people' Margaret Thatcher
  • the sooner people understand that labour are clueless and have destroyed the country in so many socio-economic ways, the better off we will all be.

    I mean, imagine the morning after the election (if the coward ever calls one) and they have got in for another 5 years. imagine the sould destroying horror as you contemplate the disaster ahead.

    It really does send a shiver down my spine.
  • abaxas
    abaxas Posts: 4,141 Forumite
    Can spot the labourites too :)

    That is too easy.

    They are the ones with their hands in your pocket.
  • treliac
    treliac Posts: 4,524 Forumite
    StevieJ wrote: »
    I think you have already decided where your X is going icon7.gif

    I have... but it's not a happy decision.
  • nollag2006
    nollag2006 Posts: 2,638 Forumite
    wymondham wrote: »
    I know Gordon has a valid reason for being upset (terrible family losses etc), but looks like the new 'we are human' tactic from labour is to show emotion on chatshows - even Alister Campbell is doing it now!! ..... do you think this will work in time for May???

    Really really nasty to sneer at a father mourning the loss of a child. I only hope you never experience the pain of that loss (as I have).

    Irrespective of your politicial views - this sort of remark is thoroughly reprehensible.

    Shame on you
  • I think it's the timing that people are questioning Nollag. As PM he could have chosen to talk about this any time but didn't (in fact he made a point of saying that he wanted his private life to be private). So why has he done it now, just before an election and 10 days before the first anniversary of the death of Ivan Cameron?

    Alistair Campbell is back and his record speaks for itself as does Mandelson's.

    It stands to reason therefore that some people are going to look at this and think "Why now?"

    Look at shows like the X Factor - they always try to attach a sob story to the contestants. It makes people vote. Far more people will watch this interview than would have done otherwise - many of whom have no interest in politics and probably wouldn't vote in normal circumstances. Now they will because of that poor Gordon Brown who cried on tv.

    I feel terribly sorry for anyone who has lost a child (and that of course includes Gordon Brown) but I remain of the view that he could have (and should have) refused to talk about this in advance. That would have been in keeping with his previous assertions that his private life is private and would have avoided any speculation that he was trying to win votes by gaining sympathy.

    As I said earlier, I do hope that Cameron doesn't follow suit with this. I just don't think it's appropriate, particularly so close to an election.
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