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Plan B .... Weeping

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  • Radiantsoul
    Radiantsoul Posts: 2,096 Forumite
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    Sapphire wrote: »
    I couldn't give a toss about the private lives of politicians. I want to know how they are going to help the wrecked economy, education, elderly people, improve the morality in this country, stop immigration, etc.

    If you are not interested in their personal life then you ought to discount the fact that Gordon Brown wept as a personal matter that has impact on those who care about such things. The truth of the matter is probably that you dislike Gordon Brown and you are allowing that to colour your judgement. Had he bruskly answere that the matter was off topic then we probably would have had post bemoaning him for being cold hearted.
    Cameron has let it be argued that his disabled child helped to soften his attitudes and make him slightly more of a compassionate conservative. In my opinion there is nothing wrong with this as it is something voters might like to know.
  • Kohoutek
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    If you want to criticise Brown, I would be careful about such a sensitive and personal matter. Clearly losing a child would be a horrendous experience.

    The worst aspect of that interview for me is the confirmation of New Labour's open contempt for democracy and the British public:

    "Mr Brown...said Mr Blair had secretly promised to hand over power to him - but that the timing lay with Mr Blair... [he] confirmed reports dating back more than 15 years that Mr Blair promised to hand over power to him later if he stood aside for him in that initial contest..But he said the secret pact was not reached at the Granita restaurant in Islington, North London, as has been stated, but was agreed before then."

    Why criticise North Korea, when we have our own Stalinist dictatorship that has bankrupted the country and destroyed our economy?
  • ILW
    ILW Posts: 18,333 Forumite
    It appears now that their son has a life threatening condition. Meanwhile Mr and Mrs Brown seem to be appearing all over the world at various events. I have to say that if it was me, I would resign from the job or at least make sure one of the parents was with the child most of the time. Then againn, I do not have their single mided ambition.
  • simpywimpy
    simpywimpy Posts: 2,386 Forumite
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    PersonallY I welcome the chance to see Brown as a real human being besides a political figure. Whether someone chooses to talk about events in their life is up to them and I don't think it makes them more or less a person to do so in public.
  • wigglebeena
    wigglebeena Posts: 1,988 Forumite
    If you have ever experienced the personal pain from the death of a child, you would know that it is not something that you would tout for personal gain.

    I dunno, I've had a colleague swear something to me on his kid's life, when due to an alternative source of information I knew full well he was lying.

    Look at the child abuse stats. There are a lot of people who don't give a **** about their kids.
  • drc
    drc Posts: 2,057 Forumite
    wymondham wrote: »
    I know Gordon has a valid reason for being upset (terrible family losses etc), but looks like the new 'we are human' tactic from labour is to show emotion on chatshows - even Alister Campbell is doing it now!! ..... do you think this will work in time for May???

    Alastair Campbell's not human surely?
  • Sapphire wrote: »
    I couldn't give a toss about the private lives of politicians. I want to know how they are going to help the wrecked economy, education, elderly people, improve the morality in this country, stop immigration, etc. We all have personal tragedies in our lives. Few of us allow them to impinge to any great degree on our working lives.

    In my view, Cameron acted with far more dignity with respect to the death of his child than has Brown, whose behaviour I find despicable. :mad:

    I don't think all losses are the same. We all lose people, of course, it's the human condition, but having experienced the death of my mother ( who I adored ) and the death of my child, I have to say that my daughter's death was much, much more traumatic. For a long time, anyone asking about it at work would provoke tears despite me trying not to cry.
    My favourite subliminal message is;
  • Radiantsoul
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    Mozette wrote: »
    MPs are not above using anything for personal gain. Would you have fed your child a burger when JSG did?

    His decision was unwise, but I am sure a lot of parents continued to feed their children beefburgers. The issue seems to be that he did it in public.

    But then Blair was criticised for not publically stating whether his youngest child had the combined MMR vaccine.

    I am not sure in either case it was really about personal gain.
  • Davesnave
    Davesnave Posts: 34,741 Forumite
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    Mozette wrote: »
    Would you have fed your child a burger when JSG did?

    I am embarrassed to say that I did. However I'm not an MP, nor anyone who stands to gain from burger sales; I merely carried on doing what millions of others were also doing, refusing to be panicked one way or the other.

    Mind you, I agree that Gummer was a complete !!!! for doing what he did!
  • Mozette wrote: »
    MPs are not above using anything for personal gain. Would you have fed your child a burger when JSG did?


    CJD could still be incubating.

    Unwise?

    He was a nutter........
    Not Again
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