Weezl's phase 1- recipe testing and frugalisation- come one, come all!

weezl74

Hi Aless, I've published a new recipe for something which can be made on planners 2 or 3 which your DH might like

Any chance of nutritional analysis for 3 of them, ie 1/12th of the recipe?

Hiya arty, nice to see you can you do a linkie to that recipe from your index

I'm not too busy to tell you where the project is at, I'm too woolly of brain to know myself :rotfl:

I know I have to do some work on stuff like the carrot cake, like taking the powdered milk out, but the version I can find that I thought I was using has no milk powder, so I'm deeply confused!

Fortunately while I'm in my semi-here but not fully here state, the lovely Lesley is lending us her project managers brain (I think, hope I'm not press ganging you there Lesley) and will give me a bit of shepherding to come up with the info that all you lovely peeps require

Arty, also did you see I was putting out feelers for people who might want to run with the planner for a month and have a diary style thread of how it's going? Just wondered if you'd seen....;)

weezl74

ariarnia wrote: »

I'll be loosing in the week internets access
Bore da.

:eek::eek::eek:

my idea of hell ariarnia!

Do you have a lappy/netbook?

Cardiff central library is a smart and beautiful new facility with Wifi access for free. I think they have some terminals too.... Isom is that right?

PS everyone, I forgot to say I might not be on loads tomorrow as I'm celebrating my birthday

xxx

ariarnia

happy birthday. you're going to have fun in the next few years with joint birthdays me thinks.

ceridwen

weezl74 wrote: »

from Aless and ceridwen then I wonder whether we have a level 4 planner to build after 1-3 have rolled out, where the non-negotiable is about more savoury and less energy being delivered through sugars.

I personally agree with you guys, and would probably not want to eat the cakes, but that'd be ok cos I'd be at the lower calorie need in the bob and shirley planner, so I'd be getting mine from my porridge, sarnie and delia tart with veg, so that'd do me, calorie-wise, because I'm only 5ft 5 and a half

I cant answer for Aless or anyone else - but I would personally very much like a suitable mealplanner for those who arent prepared to make any compromises with their health at all. So - it could avoid all the "ceridwen health-minded" swops and use say:
- sunflower oil or coconut oil instead of olive oil
- less fruit/veg than I would personally throw in (but enough to match Govt guidelines)
- not specify anything to be organic (even the things that most need to be - like dairy products/tomatoes/apples/salads from memory)

People like myself could instantly swap these things for ourselves personally to the healthier version - according to how much money we were making available for food/or had available for food.

Just a dead dead basic plan - according to how I see it anyways - of:
- no sugar (or leastways VERY little)
- everything wholemeal instead of white
- making own buttery type spread instead of buying the readymade version
- no heavily processed food (eg baked beans, Readybrek, dried milk).

Such a plan would certainly cost more than £100 per month - more in the region of £150-£200. Even if it were £200 though - thats still only £50 per person per month and, as such, incredibly cheap and half the standard cost per person for food. This really is the thing that some people (not just me!) are simply not going to compromise their health to that great a degree because of money and would honestly rather spend that bit more (if nothing like a standard amount) in order to be sure they arent putting their health at risk for the sake of a few £s saved in the short-term. You could call it the "Hard Nut" Variant......

SusanC_2

Murrell wrote: »

Aless, interesting to read your early report. Sounds like we need a savoury as well as a sweet snack instead of 2 sweets snacks. I am also puzzling over this as we have 2 diabetics and and the rest of us choose not to eat sugar as a general rule. Its sometimes hard to think of savoury snacks. We have nut butters on oat cakes/rice cakes/ryvita/cracker type snacks, (as well as fruit or carrots) for snacks, but somedays our sandwich spread is peanut butter if i've not made a bean, mushroom or lentil type pate. I had peanut butter today, so tried fruit spread on rice cakes and it was nice, don't know why i'd not tried it before.

I wonder if a fruit bread might be a possible alternative to cake? Obviously it's still sweet rather than savoury but would probably be considered more healthy than cake?

SusanC_2

ceridwen wrote: »

I cant answer for Aless or anyone else - but I would personally very much like a suitable mealplanner for those who arent prepared to make any compromises with their health at all. So - it could avoid all the "ceridwen health-minded" swops and use say:
- sunflower oil or coconut oil instead of olive oil
- less fruit/veg than I would personally throw in (but enough to match Govt guidelines)
- not specify anything to be organic (even the things that most need to be - like dairy products/tomatoes/apples/salads from memory)

People like myself could instantly swap these things for ourselves personally to the healthier version - according to how much money we were making available for food/or had available for food.

Just a dead dead basic plan - according to how I see it anyways - of:
- no sugar (or leastways VERY little)
- everything wholemeal instead of white
- making own buttery type spread instead of buying the readymade version
- no heavily processed food (eg baked beans, Readybrek, dried milk).

Such a plan would certainly cost more than £100 per month - more in the region of £150-£200. Even if it were £200 though - thats still only £50 per person per month and, as such, incredibly cheap and half the standard cost per person for food. This really is the thing that some people (not just me!) are simply not going to compromise their health to that great a degree because of money and would honestly rather spend that bit more (if nothing like a standard amount) in order to be sure they arent putting their health at risk for the sake of a few £s saved in the short-term. You could call it the "Hard Nut" Variant......

I would go for a plan like that although I'm a bit confused by the way round you've put your oils as coconut oil costs four times what olive oil does. Based on what we spend (two adults and a toddler), I reckon we would spend about £250-300 if we were two adults and two teenagers so £200 should be fairly easily doable.

Murrell

weezl74 wrote: »

Hi Aless, I've published a new recipe for something which can be made on planners 2 or 3 which your DH might like

Any chance of nutritional analysis for 3 of them, ie 1/12th of the recipe?

I like the look of those. Have all the ingredients. Will make them this week and give feedback.
I missed you too, but don't spend too long on here!
Sandra
x

ceridwen

SusanC wrote: »

I would go for a plan like that although I'm a bit confused by the way round you've put your oils as coconut oil costs four times what olive oil does. Based on what we spend (two adults and a toddler), I reckon we would spend about £250-300 if we were two adults and two teenagers so £200 should be fairly easily doable.

Just had a quick check on the price of the coconut oil I have in - £1.50 for 500ml. Guess I'm basing it on that - as I think the olive oil I have in costs rather more than that. So - okay - depends on which brand of each one is using perhaps?

Anyways - assuming either sunflower oil or olive oil then - good to hear someone else would also like a similar plan to me:D

queen_of_string

Today I have been slowly going mad trying to find a bread recipe that is close to commercial to feed to the fussy people in this house. It's a pain, two of the kids go to Mum's half the week and eat things I dont buy, so their tastes are skewed to the commercial. Not really their fault but means I am sometimes having to do stealth home made. Aaargh.

Anyways, enuf about me. Todays bread making made me think about breadsticks. I wondered if a couple of flavours from the things already on the list might be a cheap and simple savoury snack, as Shirl is already making bread?

I am hoping to make buttery spread tomorrow and onion tart. Will report back.

Lesley_Gaye

aless02 wrote: »

I'd love to look at the planner if it's open invitation? Don't mind giving you my e-mail addy, Lesley...I wasn't sure if it was open to anyone

perfectly open, it's just a shame that I have to add individual email addresses, I would rather be able to give a link and let people look if they want to

Send me your email addr re PM and I'll add you in