*British Army To Patrol Streets* Economy Collapse Martial Law?

Running_Horse

This forum has found its natural constituency. It's all a conspiracy.

Sucker_for_sweeties

Spartacus_Mills wrote: »

This is hardly new news. The laws brought in, ostensibly, to protect us from terrorism are being used against people. The freedoms we have enjoyed are being curtailed and to a degree the terrorists have won. Flying is now a chore, people are harrassed in the streets for taking pictures, councils snoop on parents, the Police steal innocent people's DNA, people fined for feeding the ducks in the park. Bonkers. We are not anywhere near a totalitarian state but we are all treated as suspects now by one of the surliest, small minded, bureaucracies we have ever had.

Asheron wrote: »

Why don't they just leave us alone ?



They even take peoples kids away now, where they get abused in the government care system.

Wasn't it Hitler who said
[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica]"The best way to take control over a people and control them utterly is to take a little of their freedom at a time, to erode rights by a thousand tiny and almost imperceptible
reductions. In this way the people will not see those rights and freedoms being removed until past the point at which these changes cannot be reversed."


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agent_orange_2

As long as we've got super soccer Sunday, we're ok. It's the opium of the masses.

bo_drinker

Asheron wrote: »

When the economy collapses, and it will, your going to see people turn into animals.

I thought this was happening last year ?? (confused smiley)

bo_drinker

Running_Horse wrote: »

This forum has found its natural constituency. It's all a conspiracy.

If that's the new way you spell bo11ox..:rotfl:

wymondham

I would personally like to have troops on the street. I would hazzard a guess you'd get a much better response to crime and a more 'direct' way of dealing with it!

Arcaine

wymondham wrote: »

I would personally like to have troops on the street. I would hazzard a guess you'd get a much better response to crime and a more 'direct' way of dealing with it!

Peace and harmoney all under the barrel of a gun. No thanks.

Kohoutek

wymondham wrote: »

I would personally like to have troops on the street. I would hazzard a guess you'd get a much better response to crime and a more 'direct' way of dealing with it!

We have a large police force that is trained to maintain law and order. Soldiers are trained to kill, not to police. If the government implements these insane proposals during a terrorist scare, we'll see a Charles de Menezes every week, if not every day.

Everyone should be alarmed by these proposals...just think of what Northern Ireland was like during the Troubles when the British government tried to use soldiers as police.

At best it's a very ill-conceived policy, at worst it's a step towards a police state.

vivatifosi

HAMISH_MCTAVISH wrote: »

Nothing personal mate, but you're so bonkers you make me look sane.;) Which I don't mind in the least.:D.

Asheron wrote: »

Hamish we need to stop the Volcano's, im going to write a letter to Al-Gore I have this idea of putting Giant Lids on them.

This is what I love about your posts Asheron, I'm with Hamish, so I'm never quite sure whether to be alarmed or amused by them. I'm hoping that the above is a joke, right. If so, I found it genuinely funny. If not, er, sorry....

Kohoutek wrote: »

Everyone should be alarmed by these proposals...just think of what Northern Ireland was like during the Troubles when the British government tried to use soldiers as police.

At best it's a very ill-conceived policy, at worst it's a step towards a police state.

However this bit leaves me cold. Kohutek strikes me as a pretty sane poster, and sleepwalking into a police state is something I'm absolutely not in favour of. Yet it is something you (Asheron) constantly allude to. You've even started using sources that I may even read. Heck I'm confused now.

HAMISH_MCTAVISH

vivatifosi wrote: »

However this bit leaves me cold. Kohutek strikes me as a pretty sane poster, and sleepwalking into a police state is something I'm absolutely not in favour of. Yet it is something you constantly allude to. You've even started using sources that I may even read. Heck I'm confused now.

Whilst there is little doubt that Asheron is King of the conspiracy crackpots, and that his overly alarmist posts are all a bit bonkers, the underlying concern regarding a police state, better expressed by Kohoutek, is sound.

Under Labour we have become a surveillance society, with council officials using anti-terrorism laws to snoop through peoples rubbish, spy on their kids, intercept their emails and post, and all to check school catchment areas or combat dog fouling.

We have more CCTV cameras per person than anywhere on earth. Traffic cameras record our movements. We are the most photographed society on earth. And the police can collect DNA for something as trivial as a traffic offense, and keep the DNA of innocent people for years.

The potential for abuse is breathtaking. The intent of the nanny state to try and control every aspect of our life is well proven, and deeply troubling. And the current state of affairs with anti-terror laws is deeply illiberal.

When an 80 year old man can be dragged out of a party conference by the Police and arrested under anti-terrorism powers, merely for stating the word "rubbish", it is well past the time to be afraid of sleepwalking into a police state.