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  • I before e except after c

    Usually but not always, for example: species.
  • I before e except after c

    Scientifically proven to be wrong :o
  • Don't mean to sound all grumpy - I'm a friendly soul really ;)

    Of the few forums I frequent, this one does seem to have more than its fair share of *angry* people, ready to dismiss or slate people's comments at the drop of a hat.

    So it's good to read comments like yours actually, as it shows that robust debates can happen without it degrading into a slanging match. Chocessential, I apologise if I was harsh (being intellectually provocative was my only aim) - and thank you.

    But I still don't like the missing "s" :rotfl:
  • People do get very cross on all the MSE forums, and for some reason the question of grammar and punctuation really gets their blood boiling. Long may the robust debates continue (in a nice friendly way of course).

    Madmark; there was need to apologise but thanks :)
    (I can't find the smilies for some reason).
  • Oh that's strange; there's the smilie now.
  • frivolous_fay
    frivolous_fay Posts: 13,302 Forumite
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    I before e except after c

    ... except in exceptions!
    My TV is broken! :cry:
    Edit: refunded £515 for TV 1.5 years out of warranty - thank you Sale of Goods Act! :j
  • Torby
    Torby Posts: 1,704 Forumite
    can someone clear this one up then, in Newcastle should it be:

    St. James' Park
    St Jame's Park
    St James's Park
    St James Park

    I think 2 of them are definitely wrong...
    I'm now a retired teacher... hooray ...:j

    Those who can do, those who can't, come to me for lessons:cool:

  • frivolous_fay
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    edited 7 February 2010 at 11:38AM
    Torby wrote: »
    can someone clear this one up then, in Newcastle should it be:

    St. James' Park
    St Jame's Park
    St James's Park
    St James Park

    I think 2 of them are definitely wrong...

    Lynne Truss uses them as an example - she says:

    'The trouble is that institutions, towns, colleges, families, companies and brands have authority over their own spelling and punctuation (which is often historic) and there is absolutely nothing we can do except raise an eyebrow and make a mental note....

    St Thomas' Hospital is thus the self-styled name of the hospital and that's that. The stadium of Newcastle United FC is, similarly, St James' Park. In the end, neither is worth getting worked up about...'

    (But she is in favour of the extra s)
    My TV is broken! :cry:
    Edit: refunded £515 for TV 1.5 years out of warranty - thank you Sale of Goods Act! :j
  • Lynne Truss uses them as an example - she says:

    'The trouble is that institutions, towns, colleges, families, companies and brands have authority over their own spelling and punctuation (which is often historic) and there is absolutely nothing we can do except raise an eyebrow and make a mental note....

    St Thomas' Hospital is thus the self-styled name of the hospital and that's that. The stadium of Newcastle United FC is, similarly, St James' Park. In the end, neither is worth getting worked up about...'

    (But she is in favour of the extra s)

    Exactly. And the sentences directly before your quote read, "Of course it should be St Thomas's Hospital. Of course it should." (her italics)

    All I was doing with this thread was raising an eyebrow with my fingers. I guess it doesn't help that I was born in St Thomas'!
  • Torby wrote: »
    can someone clear this one up then, in Newcastle should it be:

    St. James' Park
    St Jame's Park
    St James's Park
    St James Park

    I think 2 of them are definitely wrong...

    The 2nd and 4th ones are wrong. In the 2nd example it's like saying the park which belongs to Jame (rather than James) and the 4th one doesn't indicate possession at all.

    I've obviously got too much time on my hands today :)
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