Jelly's will questions

Jellywobble123

Hi everyone....no more news as yet ...we are still waiting for the reply from the executor solicitors who drew up the PA/Will to the letter sent by our solicitors requesting they give up being executors and so we can appoint someone new...they were given a deadline that they replied they couldnt make and so were given an extension until June 1st...still waiting to hear from the solicitors what the reply has been,if any....

We dont seem to be getting many results at the moment just bills...so far we have spent £2,500 on solicitors with another £500 bill due any day and we dont appear to have got very far!

It appears the "no win no fee" offer is not all that it seems...they will only offer us this if the TB does not agree to our contesting the 2008 Will and we have to go to court..otherwise we pay all costs ourselves..if we want the no win no fee contract the papers have to be seen by a Barrister to approve us being offered the scheme...which they want another £1,000 for!

Its no wonder people get away with these dodgy Wills as although my sister and I arent broke,we are not that well off either as both of us arent working,relying on our savings to pay for all this...the reassurance from the solicitors that we will get all our costs reimbursed when we win seems along way off at the moment as success seems a distant dream...I can wholly understand now why people give up on these matters as we have spent all this money for no result yet as far as we are concerned.to finalise this matter (without going to court) they estimate costs will be another £2,000 and then we have to start with sueing the solicitors for malpractice...who knows what that will cost!Then the "estate" has to contest the EPA & recover the funds the TB has taken...the costs coming from the "Estate" ie our inheritance...then whatever we may lucky to be left with will be taxed at 40% over the IHT threshold...daylight robbery the whole charade!

What makes matters worse is the TB has changed her phone number so none of us can contact her and we have heard she has "MOVED ON WITH HER LIFE"....yes- with our inheritance! :mad::mad::mad: there has even been a suggestion she has been away on a cruise the last couple of weeks...no doubt searching for the next poor bast**d to fleece.

any update will be posted as soon as have it....we could do with the "secret millionaire" sending us a big fat cheque!

Its our Dads birthday next weekend so we intend to all get together (as we always did on his b.day) and celebrate a wonderful man who was very special to us all.it would be nice if we had some good news to celebrate at the same time...fingers crossed!

Jellywobble123

hi everyone...quick update...deadline for a reply from the Will/EPA solicitrs (asking them to give up being executors) has now gone past..apparently they have put a letter in the post saying a basic "get lost" to us...so we now have to get them removed via court proceedings which is going to cost us another £5,000.....incredible to think that we are trying to put right the wrong that has been done to us and its costing us a fortune...this just goes to show how wrong the "system" is regarding these matters and it highlights how easy it is for Wills /EPA's etc to be illegally drawn up with the perpetrators having the reassurance that unless you have an unlimited pot of gold to draw on they are very likely going to get away with it! This cant be right and there must be a way that this crazy system can be changed to support people like us who are the victims of these greedy and vile golddiggers....does anyone know a way round this extortionate path on which we find ourselves through no fault of our own?

Thanks

Jellyx

RAS

Jelly.

Surely this is the point at which you seriously need to consider reporting herself to the police for fraud?

That might start to open the options up?

Jellywobble123

thanks for that RAS you must have a crystal ball....we went to the police today! fed up with getting nowhere with the solicitor who is basically treating us like a money tree with no proper results we decided to give the "old bill" a try to test the water.....they were VERY interested and are starting an investigation but say that we may not get anywhere as the wonderful CPS may not think that procecuting the TB is "in the public interest"...amazing...never mind whats in our "interest" then???!!

Police gave us pointers as to what executor nephew can do to help and ease the financial burden on my sister and i by making certain enquiries but he states that as a school teacher he is too busy at the moment to help....we are so sick to death of the non compliance by everyone we come across to help us in this matter.Even the damn funeral directors wouldnt tell us how much had been raised at the funeral and since in our Dads memory for the Alzheimers society because we are "not next of kin" its just bloody ridiculous how this country works,theyve gone "rule" mad.:mad:

so we now have to wait to see what the Police are prepared to do with the TB.

The solicitors have demanded £6,000 ON ACCOUNT to continue with the persuit of the executor solicitors to get them kicked off as such.needless to say they have stuck two fingers up to the £500 letter sent by our side asking them to renounce...complete waste of time and money.So we now have to apply to the court to get them removed hence why they want even more dosh from us...that would bring the bill so far to approx £10,000 and we havent even contested the Will yet!! CRAZY CRAZY CRAZY....we are on the verge of giving up because we simply cant afford all this money in the hope we MAY be able to claim it back...its just too risky and expensive....lets hope the Police will be more positive with their decision on whether to prosecute her for fraud.....

Jelly

Fang_3

This is horrendous! And she had been married to your dad since 1998? Am I right? Good lord.

Jellywobble123

i think he made the big mistake of marrying her in 1996,she has actually been with my Dad since 1984 believe it or not...she was obviously going for the "long con"......

Fang_3

Jellywobble123 wrote: »

i think he made the big mistake of marrying her in 1996,she has actually been with my Dad since 1984 believe it or not...she was obviously going for the "long con"......

With that information, I don't think she's been in it for a con. I'm sorry, but it seems to me like your dad wanted to provide for his partner of 25 years. It certainly gives the thread a whole new perspective.

RAS

Fang

Dad wrote a will leaving part of his estate to his second wife, part to his children and part to his grandchildren, so he made provision for all of them.

After he was diagnosed with serious dementia, his second wife arranged a new will and took control of his finances. She almost completely cleared out all the accounts that held assets which were due to be inherited by the children and grandchildren and moved them onto accounts in her name/joint names.

In order to do this she used an EPA, which was illegal because it had not been registered with the PGO. Had she regsitered the LPA, dad would not have been able to sigh the revised will.

I have already told jelly that i think the second wife might have been able to claim a larger share of the estate, but I doubt if she would have got it all.

Jellywobble123

a mighty thanks RAS for putting Fang straight....sorry Fang but you couldnt be further from the truth and the whole story of the last 25+ years is not on here....

this woman was a predator.....when my Mum was alive she followed my parents everywhere they went with her mother in tow.She lived at home with her and her disabled father....my mum suspected they were having an affair after she caught this woman proffessing her undying love to my father at a function they were attending.This woman had been my mothers hairdresser and we believe she was immensely jealous of my mothers lifestyle as they were successful business people with plenty of money....Mum even expressed when she was dying not to let this woman near Dad and her family....my Mum died of cancer at 51 and this "thing" dived in and took over my vulnerable father 2 weeks later sleeping in the bed my mum had DIED in......thats surely a sign of the desperate, vile person she is....the stories of how she has manipulated our family and caused numerous family fall outs would fill an volume of books....

when our Dad was ill we were always concerned about her care of him and were relieved when he was taken off her and put into residential care..despite the fact we voiced concerns about the fact she only fed him soup and ice cream beacuse she was his WIFE and NEXT OF KIN the mental health team thought the sun shined out of her ar*e...however after Dad had been "rescued" the CPN said if she had wanted him home they would have taken out a court order against her...she is an evil, cruel,calculating !!!!! and the spitefull things she did and said to my poor Dad when he was ill and helpless would make any strong man weep. In the last few hours of my dads life she was sat at the far end of the room filing her nails and talking about how glad she was that she had always been "a dirty shagger" (her words not mine) YOU HAVE NO IDEA FANG WHAT YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT!!!!

My father adored his family,worked all his life to give them a good life..he did not do it for the likes of her.He expressed to us that whatever he left to her she was to Will back to the family as he didnt want her rabble benefiting from his |& mums lifetime of hard graft.

The above is just an example of what we have had to live with all these years. How we havent taken the law into our own hands even before all this Will business i dont know...we deserve a medal for our tolerance.we endured her because of our great love for our Dad.

She wanted my mothers life,her husband ,her house,her wealth and her name and she made it her business for many years to do just that.To show how sick in the head she is she even bought jewellery from the same bespoke jewellers my mother used which was an hours drive from our house...sick eh? there are many more examples...

She now sits in my family home which she has contributed NIL towards,surrounded by my mothers and maternal grandmothers possessions and antiques,having stolen the contents of Dads estate that was meant for his family.She was not content with a free house worth about £300k and £50 in cash ..she wanted THE LOT!!! I accept she was with my dad along time and that it was right he should "provide" for her...but it was not his wish that his family be left with NOTHING and that she steal the lot when he was at his most vulnerable.

if she was innocent why has she changed her phone number,got an alarm installed and doesnt speak to any of the family at all,not even acknowledging birthdays etc of the little ones??? Those that were supposed to be her "family"??? Well as far as she is concerned its "JOB DONE" isnt it and we can go and whistle.

Changed your opinion now Fang?

Fang_3

Jellywobble123 wrote: »

a mighty thanks RAS for putting Fang straight....sorry Fang but you couldnt be further from the truth and the whole story of the last 25+ years is not on here....

this woman was a predator.....when my Mum was alive she followed my parents everywhere they went with her mother in tow.She lived at home with her and her disabled father....my mum suspected they were having an affair after she caught this woman proffessing her undying love to my father at a function they were attending.This woman had been my mothers hairdresser and we believe she was immensely jealous of my mothers lifestyle as they were successful business people with plenty of money....Mum even expressed when she was dying not to let this woman near Dad and her family....my Mum died of cancer at 51 and this "thing" dived in and took over my vulnerable father 2 weeks later sleeping in the bed my mum had DIED in......thats surely a sign of the desperate, vile person she is....the stories of how she has manipulated our family and caused numerous family fall outs would fill an volume of books....

when our Dad was ill we were always concerned about her care of him and were relieved when he was taken off her and put into residential care..despite the fact we voiced concerns about the fact she only fed him soup and ice cream beacuse she was his WIFE and NEXT OF KIN the mental health team thought the sun shined out of her ar*e...however after Dad had been "rescued" the CPN said if she had wanted him home they would have taken out a court order against her...she is an evil, cruel,calculating !!!!! and the spitefull things she did and said to my poor Dad when he was ill and helpless would make any strong man weep. In the last few hours of my dads life she was sat at the far end of the room filing her nails and talking about how glad she was that she had always been "a dirty shagger" (her words not mine) YOU HAVE NO IDEA FANG WHAT YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT!!!!

My father adored his family,worked all his life to give them a good life..he did not do it for the likes of her.He expressed to us that whatever he left to her she was to Will back to the family as he didnt want her rabble benefiting from his |& mums lifetime of hard graft.

The above is just an example of what we have had to live with all these years. How we havent taken the law into our own hands even before all this Will business i dont know...we deserve a medal for our tolerance.we endured her because of our great love for our Dad.

She wanted my mothers life,her husband ,her house,her wealth and her name and she made it her business for many years to do just that.To show how sick in the head she is she even bought jewellery from the same bespoke jewellers my mother used which was an hours drive from our house...sick eh? there are many more examples...

She now sits in my family home which she has contributed NIL towards,surrounded by my mothers and maternal grandmothers possessions and antiques,having stolen the contents of Dads estate that was meant for his family.She was not content with a free house worth about £300k and £50 in cash ..she wanted THE LOT!!! I accept she was with my dad along time and that it was right he should "provide" for her...but it was not his wish that his family be left with NOTHING and that she steal the lot when he was at his most vulnerable.

if she was innocent why has she changed her phone number,got an alarm installed and doesnt speak to any of the family at all,not even acknowledging birthdays etc of the little ones??? Those that were supposed to be her "family"??? Well as far as she is concerned its "JOB DONE" isnt it and we can go and whistle.

Changed your opinion now Fang?

It's obviously a very emotive issue, but the fact is he had 25 years to get rid of her if he wanted. He didn't. I would wager that the alarm is to keep you away.

Think about it from her point of view - she's married to a man that she's been with for 25 years. In a house that has been her home for 25 years. That's possibly longer than it had been yours if you left home before you were 25. It's possible that after two decades of living together that your father decided that his money should go to his partner of a quarter of a century and not his adult children, but put off changing his will, until he realised how ill he was and then desperately tried to change it.

Yes it must be awful for you, and I don't know whether you always treated this woman with such disrespect, but if you did, then you should remember that your dad loved her. And stayed with her for 25 years. Perhaps after the treatment you gave her, he decided that he would teach you a lesson in respect?

She offered you a lot of money, possibly out of guilt, but you seem intent on leaving her with nothing through court action. Is it really worth it?