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Hintza

I did see a Mercedes C180 via google from a company I don't know for £278 (ish) you will need to search.

Eric_Pisch

a1vs are 24 months + only

cant find the merc ..

AdrianHi

This one was linked to via the contracthireandleasing web site Hintza posted above.
http://www.short-lease.co.uk/home.aspx
Any good?
They are doing 12 months and less leases.

Hintza

http://www.avmleasing.co.uk/catalog/index.php?cPath=63

Eric_Pisch

Hintza wrote: »

http://www.avmleasing.co.uk/catalog/index.php?cPath=63

that would be awesome if i could get that for 12 months at that rate :beer:

I also found these guys

http://www.apexrental.co.uk/long_term_rental/cars/


the best lings could do was a C4 for £400+vat for 12 months

Ling_Valentine

Hello, it is Ling.

I must say I only advertise very short term deals when they seem advantageous.

Getting good deals on cars is incredibly time consuming, so I have to prioritise, and it makes sense to concentrate on the volume market which is 2 years and above.

Of course most 1-year deals or less will be prohibitively expensive for most people, as the car will still be in the massive depreciation curve when it goes back, so the rentals are very high compared to 2-year deals.

Yes, I do occasionally get offered good 12-month deals, currently I have the Peugeot 207 1.4 8v 3dr met (a/c) at £211.49 (3+11 payments incl VAT) for immediate delivery. But these deals are really few and far between.

The number of people who want a 1-year or less deal for a new car is small and with current new car lead times generally being quite long, it is hard to satisfy the "immediate" requirement.

Just to say, I have many problems with other sites illegally advertising to consumers ex-vat, which is now a criminal offence under the Consumer Protection from Unfair Trading Regulations 2008. They do this simply to give the impression of cheaper prices, an insidious practise. You should ask what your feelings would be if your local petrol station had their totem price ex-vat per litre (on the basis they served some business clients). I had to instruct Trading Standards to visit "contracthireandleasing.com" and they forced them to state "business users only" on all their deals. Note they still refuse to show the fully inclusive prices, which I hoped would be the outcome. Which consumer can add 17.5% in their head, and many people don't even realise they have to do this.

CH&L also allow deals to be uploaded which are never verified so you find people advertising old deals or false deals, to take a consumer out of the market. For these reasons, I do not advertise there. All CH&L are concerned with is advertising revenue.

There are often hidden "document fees" in advertised deals. Some are genuine finance company fees, others are simple invented fees for profit. How does it cost anyone £50 or £100 or £180 just to handle a signed bit of paper?

In my view all fees should be absorbed into the monthly rentals, and everything shown to consumers inc VAT.

You should also look at the "about us" pages of Leasing Company websites and consider: "who are these people?" Often there is a generalised "we have years of experience" but the identity of the business owners and the track record is not clearly shown. I have seen many brand new, or bust-then-resurrected companies advertising, giving the impression they are 100-year old PLCs. Clearly some smoke and mirrors there.

I would say do a Google search on a company name and see what is revealed. For example, search my business, and on page 40 of Google you are still getting good results for me. If some others are so good as they say, where are the references? Also, consider testimonials. I publish 1,500 fully attributed, other sites have 5 "made up" ones from people like "G.L., London". Either, a) they don't have any/many, b) they can't be bothered to publish them.

So... buyer beware, eh?

charlea

i can say that this lady and her company is brilliant Hello Ling you may not remember me but you got my audi tt last year for me and my other half Dale from Bristol
we had the problem with the leasing company trying to charge us for non extistance damage to our previous car ( a mazda mx5) and you sorted it out for us and got back 550 pounds and i sent you flowers and choccies to say thanks

having leased a lot of cars from various companys i would say that personal reccomendation is important def if your not fussy on the colour of the car you can often get a better deal as well

but i can highly reccomend lings company for car leasing we had our car within 2 /3 weeks as promised and ling even sorted out a prob that had nothing to do with her company on our behalf for us

Ling_Valentine wrote: »

Hello, it is Ling.

I must say I only advertise very short term deals when they seem advantageous.

Getting good deals on cars is incredibly time consuming, so I have to prioritise, and it makes sense to concentrate on the volume market which is 2 years and above.

Of course most 1-year deals or less will be prohibitively expensive for most people, as the car will still be in the massive depreciation curve when it goes back, so the rentals are very high compared to 2-year deals.

Yes, I do occasionally get offered good 12-month deals, currently I have the Peugeot 207 1.4 8v 3dr met (a/c) at £211.49 (3+11 payments incl VAT) for immediate delivery. But these deals are really few and far between.

The number of people who want a 1-year or less deal for a new car is small and with current new car lead times generally being quite long, it is hard to satisfy the "immediate" requirement.

Just to say, I have many problems with other sites illegally advertising to consumers ex-vat, which is now a criminal offence under the Consumer Protection from Unfair Trading Regulations 2008. They do this simply to give the impression of cheaper prices, an insidious practise. You should ask what your feelings would be if your local petrol station had their totem price ex-vat per litre (on the basis they served some business clients). I had to instruct Trading Standards to visit "contracthireandleasing.com" and they forced them to state "business users only" on all their deals. Note they still refuse to show the fully inclusive prices, which I hoped would be the outcome. Which consumer can add 17.5% in their head, and many people don't even realise they have to do this.

CH&L also allow deals to be uploaded which are never verified so you find people advertising old deals or false deals, to take a consumer out of the market. For these reasons, I do not advertise there. All CH&L are concerned with is advertising revenue.

There are often hidden "document fees" in advertised deals. Some are genuine finance company fees, others are simple invented fees for profit. How does it cost anyone £50 or £100 or £180 just to handle a signed bit of paper?

In my view all fees should be absorbed into the monthly rentals, and everything shown to consumers inc VAT.

You should also look at the "about us" pages of Leasing Company websites and consider: "who are these people?" Often there is a generalised "we have years of experience" but the identity of the business owners and the track record is not clearly shown. I have seen many brand new, or bust-then-resurrected companies advertising, giving the impression they are 100-year old PLCs. Clearly some smoke and mirrors there.

I would say do a Google search on a company name and see what is revealed. For example, search my business, and on page 40 of Google you are still getting good results for me. If some others are so good as they say, where are the references? Also, consider testimonials. I publish 1,500 fully attributed, other sites have 5 "made up" ones from people like "G.L., London". Either, a) they don't have any/many, b) they can't be bothered to publish them.

So... buyer beware, eh?

Eric_Pisch

I would love to use Ling, I gained a lot of respect for her not taking the utterly ridiculous and greedy deals the dragons offer, and Emma has worked hard trying to accommodate me :beer:

The Merc deal seams to be a white lie as when I contacted them they came back with a much higher price.

The short term rental scheme only accepts insurance from 3 agents and is to much faffing about tbh.

The 207 would be a tempting deal but I doubt i could get in anything that small. Ill have to go and check one out.

Ling_Valentine

Thanks so much for comments.

Of course, you know what? I think those flowers are still twigs in my "entrepreneur" trophy vase (I don't really do flowers usually) hahaha. I really should scrape out the mould. Hahahaha!

Chocolates are always eaten within 5 minutes

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Those deals are not "white lies", they are deliberate deception. With their commission from the insurance etc, they are creaming off the profit with all the extra charges. Let's not be too polite, because they should only advertise stuff they can do, at true prices.

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It is much harder at the moment than it was one or 2 years ago. Prices have "hardened" massively, sad to say... but this is a level playing field. Many Leasing companies have gone bust, for instance Jam Jar gone, and many of the "dodgier" brokers have quit (though not all as you have seen)! However, due to my web strategy (internet just gets bigger and my business is 100% online, customers handled online in my LINGO system - I just won the 2009 NatWest BT Business award for IT and Communications for that), I am getting more and more car proposals and more and more web traffic now around 120,000 visitors a month. I try to have fun, not just sell cars. Life is too short, eh? Got Duncan Bannatyne chasing me again last week, hahaha:



One big reason for prices increasing by and large is that bloody stupid scrappage scheme acted as camoflage for just about every manufacturer to have several (some 3 or 4) massive price rises last year. Bar5tards. This will have a large effect on inflation, and along with the recent VAT rises, the lack of cars, the new showroom tax, the pain of the banks and the loss of both Lombard and Lex from the personal leasing market, things are more expensive. Manufacturers raping profits while dealers get the scraps. If it is a ££/Euro argument (as they say) then why don't Nissan Micra and Qashqai prices DROP (built in Britain)??? Plus there is a lack of new car stock. Many cars have long waiting lists.

Not to say there aren't bargains. That new model Kia Sorento (big suv) looks good with the practical 2wd version at £332 a month. XC90s have been flying out, but will rise by £15-20 due to the new showroom tax (high co2 band). Fiestas have been incredibly popular. Really, I would say, for 1 year tighten belt and grab a 1-year 207. Yes they are small, but you forget how handy these little cars are, parking, nippy (and with aircon) etc. Frankly, your life is not changed by the car you drive, it is all !!!!!!!! really )) They are not as small as you think. They have as much room as a 1995 Escort.

A car is not a reflection of your life, it's just a consumer good with wheels. You forget how much fun a small car is, for a change. )

Eric_Pisch

Thanks for the response Ling :beer:

I noticed the massive car price hikes, a top speced mondeo lists for 30k now :eek: You can get a 330 bmw for that !!! I suspect the week pound has not helped.

Unfortunately I am a die hard petrol head normal boring cars just make me want to drive into a wall or get out and jump of the Dartford bridge. Your Missile launcher looked fun to drive in that river Im the sort of guy that buys an Audi S4 and takes it to Germany to have new suspension brakes and bigger turbos fitted 2 days after collecting it new

Physically I doubt I could get into a C2 and I certainly would not be able to get anyone in the back, and the lack of rear doors would stop my 85 year old mum getting in the back as well.

I guess the market is just not geared up for short term stuff so I guess I will have to get a second hand car for the year, theres a nice V8 S class merc on auto trader just down the road from me for 5k.

Thanks again Ling, "hopefully" when my contracts renewed Ill come and have a chat about an S4/M3 at the end of the year.