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  • katsu
    katsu Posts: 5,023 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 1,000 Posts Name Dropper Mortgage-free Glee!
    Thinking of you and your family Ellidee
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  • Snaggles
    Snaggles Posts: 19,503 Forumite
    :grouphug: Ellidee, don't know what to say really :( I'm very sorry hon. xxx
    "I wasn't wrong, I just wasn't right enough."
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  • Snaggles
    Snaggles Posts: 19,503 Forumite
    I saw Running to the Limits when it was on last year - thought in general it was rather disappointing, and the guy was a bit of a nob, but agree it made some very valid points about the state of British running. I just can't remember what they were now... :rotfl:
    "I wasn't wrong, I just wasn't right enough."
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  • scaredy_cat
    scaredy_cat Posts: 7,758 Forumite
    what on earth is Murray doing!!!!
    Cats don't have owners - they have staff!! :D:p
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  • brummiebabe
    brummiebabe Posts: 1,894 Forumite
    Elliedee-so sorry to hear your news- thoughts are with you and your family x

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  • becky_rtw
    becky_rtw Posts: 8,393 Forumite
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    but do you think he made a good point about the lack of british ld runner there are now, due to the lack of support from the media and sponsership?

    Sorry am having internet issues this morning :mad:

    No I think the media and sponsors arent interested because no one wants to put in the work to become World class - too much of a 'I want it now attitude' which Alex was a perfect example of - ooo I'm going to run sub 3 by doing 2 years training - yeah right!!! More like 6 or more!

    I also think that womens running is in an even worse state because there's too much in the media/society that rewards 'trying hard' rather than winning - all that patronising rubbish that really annoys me...but then I remember when I asked on here a while back what was better:
    Mo Farah winning a 5k race or one of us running one in 40 minutes

    The response was one of us - even though hes devoted his life to being the best people still dont recognise that effort, sweat and sacrifice - no wonder nobody wants to take up running competitively - imagine giving your life to something and having it demeaned by people who they are better than you because they can run a 40 minute 5k and you are just 'showing off'.

    Fortunately for me I dont give a stuff what such people think and I am surrounded in my life by people who reward achievement so I am more insulated from this but I do get stick for the amount of time/energy I put into this and my training regime isnt even that onerous...

    Sorry I'll stop now :eek::eek::rotfl::rotfl:
  • LouiseJ
    LouiseJ Posts: 11,156 Forumite
    Ellie I am so sorry to hear about your SIL, my thoughts are with you and your family at this sad time:grouphug:
    But these things take time, I know that I'm, the most inept that ever stepped.
  • scaredy_cat
    scaredy_cat Posts: 7,758 Forumite
    becky_rtw wrote: »
    Sorry am having internet issues this morning :mad:

    No I think the media and sponsors arent interested because no one wants to put in the work to become World class - too much of a 'I want it now attitude' which Alex was a perfect example of - ooo I'm going to run sub 3 by doing 2 years training - yeah right!!! More like 6 or more!

    I also think that womens running is in an even worse state because there's too much in the media/society that rewards 'trying hard' rather than winning - all that patronising rubbish that really annoys me...but then I remember when I asked on here a while back what was better:
    Mo Farah winning a 5k race or one of us running one in 40 minutes

    The response was one of us - even though hes devoted his life to being the best people still dont recognise that effort, sweat and sacrifice - no wonder nobody wants to take up running competitively - imagine giving your life to something and having it demeaned by people who they are better than you because they can run a 40 minute 5k and you are just 'showing off'.

    Fortunately for me I dont give a stuff what such people think and I am surrounded in my life by people who reward achievement so I am more insulated from this but I do get stick for the amount of time/energy I put into this and my training regime isnt even that onerous...

    Sorry I'll stop now :eek::eek::rotfl::rotfl:

    i really admire you for your dedication to your running, but i think the reason why people thought that 'one of us' was a better achievement was because 'one of us' is an ordinary person, doing training runs when they can fit it in with their family life, work, etc whereas Mo is an athlete..... so he is in a way 'superior' in running... (or we just take it as read he would win a 5 k cos he is a professional runner.)

    i don't think people who wish to achieve a 40min 5k think they are better than Mo, i think that he (and other atheletes) are possibly the inspiration that keeps people running.

    I feel schools have a lot to answer for in all aspects of atheletics. I was quite good at javelin and discus, but it wasn't encouraged by my pe teacher, i didn't know then about athletic clubs, or how to possibly persue it to get better, so i gave it up. Schools now don 't encourage competitveness, or the lesser acclaimed sports, so how can we expect win medals at international level in the future?
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  • Ames
    Ames Posts: 18,459 Forumite
    Ellidee, I'm so sorry to hear your news, my thoughts are with you and your family x.
    Unless I say otherwise 'you' means the general you not you specifically.
  • Ellidee
    Ellidee Posts: 6,216 Forumite
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    Thank you for all your kind words and support - it means a lot. :A XX
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