We’d like to remind Forumites to please avoid political debate on the Forum.
This is to keep it a safe and useful space for MoneySaving discussions. Threads that are – or become – political in nature may be removed in line with the Forum’s rules. Thank you for your understanding.
📨 Have you signed up to the Forum's new Email Digest yet? Get a selection of trending threads sent straight to your inbox daily, weekly or monthly!
ESA failed medical, how many others have here
Comments
-
I also failed my ESA medical the medical person who did it was the most incompitent person ive ever met. I have 1 leg shorter than the other by 2 and half inches but she didnt even measure it she measured round my knee when my accident broke my right femma she was so unproffesional good luck with your appeal still waiting for mine.
The medical assesses your fitness for work. As noted on your other thread, mobility problems alone rarely stop you from working.Gone ... or have I?0 -
-
So, come on, OP. Instead of feeling hard done to, think positive. You aren't going to beat the system and things are about to change. I can understand that you find that scarey but it sounds as though you need a wake-up call.
Wow... what a heartfelt response! You should take the place of my doctors... mental health workers... counsellors... psychiatrists... family... friends.
After 18 years of self harming and other serious conditions I just needed someone like you to point out the obvious!! Why didn't I think like that before??
Not everyone is the same, just like the different circumstances we all have.
I love it when the self-righteous judge others!
Remember just because you can doesn’t mean others can... just because you have doesn’t mean others can... just because you did doesn’t mean others can!!
Some people do genuinely need help so don't be so quick to tar them as fakes.0 -
ChishyChoshy wrote: »It doesn't assess what you can't do, rather what you can do.
Can't continue as a labourer? Get a job in an office etc
If only life was that simple.
Nowadays even healthy people have trouble getting work. The work is simply not out there. So what chance has a sick person got.
Employers want people that can work a full shift every day, not someone that will go sick all the time or cant come in cause they are unwell cause of their condition cause they simply are to sick to work or in agony with whatever health problem they may have. But the government forced them to anyway. They will just end up not being able to cope with the job at hand and end up back where they started more stressed out, having to go thru all the system again, and the fact they were forced to work could make their health condition worse.
To simply say, well cant do labouring go to office work then, is not that simple, these days all jobs want you to have previous experience in it. Unless of course you are a school or college leaver.
What chance does a labourer have getting an office job if they cant even type, or do office work, have no experience in this field. Someone else will come along with years of office experience and the ex labourer with no office experience, its obvious who the employer will choose.
They will not choose someone who is sick a lot and has no experience either in that field. Plus if the person has not worked in years also due to their illness. Employers want previous work references, where will they get these from?
Employer say, when was your previous job? Well I have not worked in years due to a health problem and have never done this type of work before. Just an example I am giving. Do you think you could handle this job its pressurising etc bla bla. How is a sick person supposed to answer this alone when they are already under pressure from their illness. Employers are not stupid and can see that they could not do the job.
So as for the government shoving people off the sick they will all just end up on JSA then, cause they cant work, its really that simple and I defend sick people that are genuine and cant work cause its simply disgusting the way they are being treated. I mean some of them have life threatening conditions and being shoved off like they are nothing.0 -
I'm confused by the title of this topic. I expected to hear the OP say that he considered himself fit for some kind of work, but had failed the medical. Instead the OP appears to have passed the medical!
I'm puzzled as to why the OP can't be more positive about the outcome and look forward to getting some kind of work that suits. In my workplace we have people with cerebral palsy, MS, cancer, brain tumours, ME, spina bifida, Downs Syndrome, serious back injuries, amputees and so on and so on.
The man in our post-room used to be Professor in a University before suffering serious mental illness. He had a full-time 'carer' when he started work on a temporary placement but now he's a permanent employee. He's probably the brainiest person in the building, but he wouldn't swop the post-room for his old job.
So, come on, OP. Instead of feeling hard done to, think positive. You aren't going to beat the system and things are about to change. I can understand that you find that scarey but it sounds as though you need a wake-up call.
Not all places are like yours. Not all places accept sick people contrary to the equal opps act.
people that have not worked in years simply could not cope with a full days work every day. Jobs are not that easy to get these days either. It depends on where you work I guess. If sick people feel that they can work then thats great, but there are lots that just feel they cant. I am speaking generally here not personally.
Plus you have to consider where the work place is as well, how can they get there depending on their illness. How much time do they need off for treatment at the hospital as well.
I am not putting my up personal stuff here as would rather not. But I feel sorry for people on here that been treated badly0 -
Yep, like I say, the medical is a load of crap! It does not address the persons actual condition. Just general questions like what did I have for breakfast and what hand did I write with. Even when I came out of the medical before I even knew if I failed or passed I said to my husband, my god. She sat and asked me a mountain of questions from a form on a computer and I could only answer yes or no, I felt like I was back at school again taking an examination. Not having a medical. She typed out one line on each line on the form and put down I could do everything when I couldnt. The medical people are getting paid a lot to do that. Its probably costing the government more to pay these people then it is for them to pay the sick people. And all these appeals to, all costing money really.I also failed my ESA medical the medical person who did it was the most incompitent person ive ever met. I have 1 leg shorter than the other by 2 and half inches but she didnt even measure it she measured round my knee when my accident broke my right femma she was so unproffesional good luck with your appeal still waiting for mine.0 -
Wow... what a heartfelt response! You should take the place of my doctors... mental health workers... counsellors... psychiatrists... family... friends.
After 18 years of self harming and other serious conditions I just needed someone like you to point out the obvious!! Why didn't I think like that before??
Not everyone is the same, just like the different circumstances we all have.
I love it when the self-righteous judge others!
Remember just because you can doesn’t mean others can... just because you have doesn’t mean others can... just because you did doesn’t mean others can!!
Some people do genuinely need help so don't be so quick to tar them as fakes.
To tquarter - thanks for your support
Yep, you get some unfeeling people on these sites dont you really. You normally find its those that have not been through the crap we have that put up these heartless comments anyway. But remember, one day they will get theirs. What goes around comes around.0 -
krisskross wrote: »But you know full well that your daughter's benefits will all continue. That nothing will change so what is there to get so het up about?
I wouldn't think for a moment that a human being sends out the letters, they will be computer generated to everyone getting certain benefits. Personally if I was in your situation, which thankfully I'm not, I would simply shrug my shoulders, agree that it is total madness and comply with the request.
They are still trying to force her to take her daughter to all these work things. If her daughter is a handful then it would be very hard for her to manage even taking her daughter to one of these work thing days.
I just think that there are some on here that are simply heartless to be honest and like to judge others without even knowing them.
But remember one thing, what goes around comes around.
For some people even getting pushed onto this stuff is stressful alone, she got her daughter to look after and all that on top to deal with to. Say her daughter throws tantrums as well, and they make her go to a work thing.0 -
The medical assesses your fitness for work. As noted on your other thread, mobility problems alone rarely stop you from working.
Its all very well to say that mobiliity probs dont stop you from working, talk is cheap, firstly you dont know what kind of pain this person is in, one leg being shorter then other can cause back problems and spinal. They may have a limp as well. Their previous injuries they could be in agony, severe pain also causes depression and the person could even cry a lot.
Its not that easy to simply say, get over things and get on with it, although thats what this government wants people to do, lets see if we remember that when the next government waste like 15K on an extension for their house or squander thousands on a duck pond or even rob us all just to get her husband a porno movie and take it out of the tax payers expenses.
While sick people just drag themselves out of the pits on low money each week and have to fight everything when they are fighting their illnesses and Mrs Government body is sitting there with her hubby watching their porno movie from our tax expenses. It was on the news and internet before about how the government squandered out money. And its always us that pay though isnt it.0 -
Thanks WML, it was also suggested that he could work in a call centre, when even I could hardly tell what he was saying much of the time.
Unfortunately he is still off work having treatment 3 times a week and blood tests the other 2 days but at 64 where would he find a job anyway, he has worked from when he left school at 15 and never claimed any benefits until his stroke last year, and all he receives is ESA and low rate DLA:(
Its simply low and disgusting. This is how the governement treat you. Criminals get treated better in prison. Its like they are punishing your husband for being very ill. I cant really put down what I think about ESA on here as it would be every other bad word really as to how you and others have been treated.0
This discussion has been closed.
Confirm your email address to Create Threads and Reply
Categories
- All Categories
- 352.4K Banking & Borrowing
- 253.7K Reduce Debt & Boost Income
- 454.4K Spending & Discounts
- 245.4K Work, Benefits & Business
- 601.2K Mortgages, Homes & Bills
- 177.6K Life & Family
- 259.2K Travel & Transport
- 1.5M Hobbies & Leisure
- 16K Discuss & Feedback
- 37.7K Read-Only Boards