Question about smoking when driving

jackieb

Whenever we get a new car my husband insists he won't smoke in it. He always makes a point of seeing if the ashtray has been used or not as well. He abstains for a little while - but then he starts smoking in the car. He opens his window (while we all freeze) and flicks his ash out the car. The car is often covered in ash down the driver's side. He seems to think that because he opens his window and he doesn't use the ashtray then he's not really smoking in the car. :mad:

It's the same when we moved house and put in a new kitchen. He says he's not going to smoke in the house. I don't ask him not to. It's he who says it. Then he gradually starts up again - while in the house. :mad: Don't volunteer to not smoke in the house, then end up reeking us all out. Don't say it at all. Just don't! :mad: Don't say you're going to give up when fags reach £4 a packet. Don't say you're going to give up when fags reach £5 a packet. Don't buy an electronic cigarette and all it's paraphanalia and give up using it after a couple of day - after your intitial enthusiastic response of ' I think it's great. I still feel like i'm having a fag'. It's all off his own back. I don't go on at him.

I'm climbing down now. That felt good. :A

goldspanners

jackieb wrote: »

Whenever we get a new car my husband insists he won't smoke in it. He always makes a point of seeing if the ashtray has been used or not as well. He abstains for a little while - but then he starts smoking in the car. He opens his window (while we all freeze) and flicks his ash out the car. The car is often covered in ash down the driver's side. He seems to think that because he opens his window and he doesn't use the ashtray then he's not really smoking in the car. :mad:

It's the same when we moved house and put in a new kitchen. He says he's not going to smoke in the house. I don't ask him not to. It's he who says it. Then he gradually starts up again - while in the house. :mad: Don't volunteer to not smoke in the house, then end up reeking us all out. Don't say it at all. Just don't! :mad: Don't say you're going to give up when fags reach £4 a packet. Don't say you're going to give up when fags reach £5 a packet. Don't buy an electronic cigarette and all it's paraphanalia and give up using it after a couple of day - after your intitial enthusiastic response of ' I think it's great. I still feel like i'm having a fag'. It's all off his own back. I don't go on at him.

I'm climbing down now. That felt good. :A

paul mckenna book, it worked for me before i even finished it. i smoked for 10 years and tried various methods including the hypnotherapist,but found the book easier to do,but lots of will power required.

jackieb

goldspanners wrote: »

paul mckenna book, it worked for me before i even finished it. i smoked for 10 years and tried various methods including the hypnotherapist,but found the book easier to do,but lots of will power required.

Thanks. I'll look at that. I don't want to nag him into it. I'll wait until he brings up the idea of stopping again (which he does often - he says he's sick if it). It'll be better if he thinks it's his idea to stop, rather than stopping because I told him to.

Lum

banger9365 wrote: »

and your point is with that garbage

Garbage? It's a copy of an interview with the manager of the Cumbria "safety" camera partnership. Of particular interest is the line

"He added that the remit of safety cameras could be extended to catch drivers using mobile phones, people overtaking on double white lines, and seatbelt offences."

For that to work they will be needing to film you through your windscreen. There's another thread on there where they link to the actual system in question which is currently working it's way through type approval.

If they can film you and do you for mobile phones and seatbelts, and they have sucessfully prosecuted people in the past for eating an apple, drinking water and smoking then it's only a matter of time before the two are put together and anyone driving through one of these new cameras with a fag in their hand gets an automatic ticket through the post.

Barneysmom

When did this country suddenly start becoming part odf China? I never knew it was a communist country, where the state tells you what to do.
If I want to smoke I will.
For goodness' sake!
All those who are now complaining about smokers, what's up? Got nobody left to pick on, you just have to have a whinge about something don't you. I bet you're all homophobic racists and have to keep quiet now.
Miserable control freaks, stop breathing your breath in my direction, it stinks.

Lum

It's ironic. I probably have more right to complain about smokers than most people (see my above post for a full explanation, but basically getting the smoke on my skin causes a lot of pain) but I still think the ban was a bad idea.

The ban has largely stopped people from smoking in private areas, cars, pubs, clubs, restaraunts etc. and pushed them out onto the streets and doorways where it's much harder to avoid.

Before the ban I could go to a decent pub-restaraunt (typically the sort attached to a hotel, whilst on a work trip) select a table as far away from the smoking area as possible and I'd be fine. I'm the one with the allergy therefore I make the effort to avoid the smokers. The last thing I want is to be "that guy" the one who does that sarcastic little cough upon getting a faceful of smoke even though I actually need to.

But now the government has forced you all outside to huddle around the doorway for that little bit of warmth that may still be available and it's now impossible to avoid. Best I can manage is to hold my breath, cover up as much skin as possible and charge through the doorway as fast as I can while avoiding looking like an escaped mental patient. I now have to do this for every single bloody building pretty much.

I hope you can understand why I complain about smokers in doorways. I really don't want you to be there and I'm sure you don't want to be there either. The old system worked fine for most establishments, and for those that didn't adqueately segregate or ventilate smokers I just took my business elsewhere.

Edit: And I note that shortly after forcing smokers outdoors, the next thing on the government's list to attack was patio heaters.

rev_henry

Also Allen Carr's Easyway. No willpower required at all so he claims.

I hate people smoking in cars purely because it ruins the car's interior and ruins its resale value. Everyone always checks when they buy a secondhand car for the ashtray and lighter having been used etc. I don't think I'd be able to co ordinate smoking whilst driving anyway, or maybe I'm just not practiced enough.
As for this safety thing, I think the distraction comes not in simply consuming the cigarette but messing about finding fag, getting out of box/case, finding lighter, lighting up etc etc. They could say you can smoke in the car but you cannot light up unless you're at a red light or whatever. No doubt it'll be banned completely soon though.

rev_henry

Lum wrote: »

It's ironic. I probably have more right to complain about smokers than most people (see my above post for a full explanation, but basically getting the smoke on my skin causes a lot of pain) but I still think the ban was a bad idea.

The ban has largely stopped people from smoking in private areas, cars, pubs, clubs, restaraunts etc. and pushed them out onto the streets and doorways where it's much harder to avoid.

Before the ban I could go to a decent pub-restaraunt (typically the sort attached to a hotel, whilst on a work trip) select a table as far away from the smoking area as possible and I'd be fine. I'm the one with the allergy therefore I make the effort to avoid the smokers. The last thing I want is to be "that guy" the one who does that sarcastic little cough upon getting a faceful of smoke even though I actually need to.

But now the government has forced you all outside to huddle around the doorway for that little bit of warmth that may still be available and it's now impossible to avoid. Best I can manage is to hold my breath, cover up as much skin as possible and charge through the doorway as fast as I can while avoiding looking like an escaped mental patient. I now have to do this for every single bloody building pretty much.

I hope you can understand why I complain about smokers in doorways. I really don't want you to be there and I'm sure you don't want to be there either. The old system worked fine for most establishments, and for those that didn't adqueately segregate or ventilate smokers I just took my business elsewhere.

And the idea of it being a ban in 'public places' is just silly. As I read in a newspaper article at the time; 'if you think a restaurant's a public place try taking a picnic in there.'

Nevermind the heat; its the RAIN.

Shoshannah

I have never smoked, but I do not support the smoking ban in pubs etc (ruddy ridiculous rule, they may as well ban drinking in pubs). However, I think smoking at the wheel should be banned.

I was a passenger in a car which crashed because the driver was distracted when trying to throw their cigarette out the window - don't tell me it's not dangerous.

rev_henry

Shoshannah wrote: »

I have never smoked, but I do not support the smoking ban in pubs etc (ruddy ridiculous rule, they may as well ban drinking in pubs). However, I think smoking at the wheel should be banned.

I was a passenger in a car which crashed because the driver was distracted when trying to throw their cigarette out the window - don't tell me it's not dangerous.

Doing that's littering and has been illegal for years...