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DD still has a bottle at 22 Months.....

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  • kegg_2
    kegg_2 Posts: 522 Forumite
    Loopy_Girl wrote: »
    What an absolute load of crap you are talking....and yes I can say that as I work for the NHS advising on this very thing.

    Bottle caries does exist but it is not caused by milk - it is caused by all the other rubbish that gets put in bottles - how many bottles have you seen with bright pink liquid or even worse dark fizzy juice:eek:

    Yes milk does have sugar but it is intrinsic which basically means that it is naturally occuring - much like when you eat an apple you get the fruit sugars but that it much much healthier than having a glass of apple juice which will have sugar added.

    For milk to cause ANY kind of caries you would literally have to be drinking gallons every hour of every day for days. Considering the 2 drinks that the Government and NHS promote are water and milk, I would be very surprised if a dentist advised against it.

    No baby should be going to bed anyway with a bottle from a safety point of view so there should be no liquid washing over the teeth all night as baby takes sips. After the last bottle feed (or breast) of the night then baby should get it's teeth cleaned.

    As soon as teeth have erupted then the mouth should be brushed twice a day with a toothbrush designed for a baby and toothpaste. No need for the posh or cartoon ones (unless you want!!) so long as it is at least 1000ppmm (on the back of the tube) and probably mild tasting for a baby.

    I take my advice from

    http://www.dentalhealth.org.uk/faqs/leafletdetail.php?LeafletID=23

    and if you read back i didn't say not to give milk at all, just not out of a bottle.


    When should I stop bottle feeding?


    Early weaning from the bottle can help stop your baby from developing dental problems.

    Try to get your baby to drink milk or water from a special cup by the time they are about 6 months old, or when they are able to sit up and can hold things on their own.
  • PasturesNew
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    When I was nearly 3 I would wander round constantly with a bottle in my mouth ... it was only when it was "lost" when I was 2 years 9 months that I was prised away from it :(
  • daska
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    kegg wrote: »
    I take my advice from

    http://www.dentalhealth.org.uk/faqs/leafletdetail.php?LeafletID=23

    and if you read back i didn't say not to give milk at all, just not out of a bottle.


    When should I stop bottle feeding?


    Early weaning from the bottle can help stop your baby from developing dental problems.

    Try to get your baby to drink milk or water from a special cup by the time they are about 6 months old, or when they are able to sit up and can hold things on their own.

    And the question immediately above the one you've quoted:

    "What about bottle-feeding?

    When feeding with a bottle, you must sterilise the bottle properly. Never add sugar or put sugary drinks into the bottle. Milk or water are the best drinks for teeth. Bottle feeding with drinks containing sugar can lead to 'bottle caries' (tooth decay). A baby is not born with a sweet tooth and will only have a taste for sugar if it is given at an early age."

    perhaps you could ask your dentist to explain the difference between giving 'a' bottle of milk and the type of bottle use that leads to bottle caries to you.
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  • kegg_2
    kegg_2 Posts: 522 Forumite
    Try reading this bit again

    Try to get your baby to drink milk or water from a special cup by the time they are about 6 months old, or when they are able to sit up and can hold things on their own.

    and i dont need any advice from the dentist thankyou as my boys were weaned years ago and have perfect teeth.
  • daska
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    kegg wrote: »
    Try reading this bit again

    Try to get your baby to drink milk or water from a special cup by the time they are about 6 months old, or when they are able to sit up and can hold things on their own.

    and i dont need any advice from the dentist thankyou as my boys were weaned years ago and have perfect teeth.

    I did read it, it doesn't back up your previous claim that giving 'a' bottle of milk causes bottle caries. Bottle caries is a genuine condition but it is due to frequent and/or prolonged use of bottles throughout the day and/or night.
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  • pigpen
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    daska wrote: »
    I did read it, it doesn't back up your previous claim that giving 'a' bottle of milk causes bottle caries. Bottle caries is a genuine condition but it is due to frequent and/or prolonged use of bottles throughout the day and/or night.

    Bottles filled with sweetened juices/caffeinated drinks and/or fizzy junk... not 2 bottles of milk a day at specific times.
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  • kegg_2
    kegg_2 Posts: 522 Forumite
    But the advice is not Bottles filled with sweetened juices/caffeinated drinks and/or fizzy junk... not 2 bottles of milk a day at specific times.
    It clearly states Try to get your baby to drink milk or water from a special cup by the time they are about 6 months old, or when they are able to sit up and can hold things on their own
    The word used is cup not bottle but
    we are going around in circles so we should just agree to disagree
  • daska
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    pigpen wrote: »
    Bottles filled with sweetened juices/caffeinated drinks and/or fizzy junk... not 2 bottles of milk a day at specific times.

    Absolutely - though to be fair even breast milk can cause caries if the child suckles all night after their teeth start coming through.
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  • daska
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    Sorry Kegg, you started with
    kegg wrote: »
    dentist recommend having no fluid via a bottle bar water from 12 -14 months.
    It is not just the juices but even the sugar in milk can cause alot of damage to teeth
    kegg wrote: »
    http://www.dental-health-index.com/picturesofbadteeth.html

    half way down shows the sort of damage caused to teeth from drinking from bootlles. It is even given its own name of baby bottle decay

    And now you're saying
    kegg wrote: »
    But the advice is not Bottles filled with sweetened juices/caffeinated drinks and/or fizzy junk... not 2 bottles of milk a day at specific times.
    It clearly states Try to get your baby to drink milk or water from a special cup by the time they are about 6 months old, or when they are able to sit up and can hold things on their own
    The word used is cup not bottle but
    we are going around in circles so we should just agree to disagree

    The OP was talking about morning and evening bottles of milk and it appeared to me and others that you were trying to claim that this was putting her child at risk of serious dental problems. I'm so sorry that we all misunderstood.
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  • kegg_2
    kegg_2 Posts: 522 Forumite
    i stand by that as i have already stated i follow the advice from dental health of to start getting them on a cup from 6 months or when they can sit.

    It is not for me to tell others what to do as it is their choice. They are just as able to read the various advices and make up their own minds.
    But i am entiled to my opinion which i have stated (more than once) without attacking anyone which is more than can be said by at least one person who disagrees with me.
    But heyho it is only a few pixels on a screen so i wont lose any sleep over it:cool:
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